csspecs 1,987 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ok this is the first production prototype. First to be built on full tooling. These still need to be sent to testers once we get done with the testing on our end. But odds are its going to look like the below photo other then it will be a flat black color. Any questions or opinions are welcome. Magazine is a 8 round capable of being loaded on a closed bolt. Magazine weighs about 14 ounces empty which is about 20% more then your average poly mag. Mag function is very slick. All steel construction. Likely pricing on first run will be around $60, we may be able to negotiate lower volume pricing with our suppliers. It may be lower depending on actual production time but that is the early numbers. 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Finally!!! It looks great! I will definitely be purchasing some of these. Edited July 16, 2013 by Ethan M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I really like the floor plate design and I don't see that the extra weight would be an issue. Great job man! Would it be awkward if I said I wanted to touch it? Haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Nice work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It looks awesome can't wait to get some. Now that I bring it up I am sure everyone else will ask also BUT if you need a extra beta tester I am sure I could find time to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 id test one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Heck, I'd be down for testing too if you need any extra people. Regardless I'm gonna get some. This is great!! I'm excited! These are sweet!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PRISONSHANK 70 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Is there a hole drilled to see if its fully loaded? Any chance smoothbacks would cut a step or two from the production time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
raidersfan_5544 57 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ditto on the testing...I have a sbs I could run one through if you need any other help. I'm definitely diggin the design too...looking good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'll volunteer for the testing program, looks like a real slick piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Is there a hole drilled to see if its fully loaded? Any chance smoothbacks would cut a step or two from the production time? No loaded hole in current model. Its not hard to feel loaded, but a witness hole could be added with little trouble during production. Smooth backs actually take another step, the shape on the back serves to keep the metal flat during forming. Chinese style smooth backs have the fin during stamping and its cut away in another step. We could have done something like m16 mags have, but it would have made the mags a little more prone to rimlock. I have to go through my tester list again and make sure they are still able. We are doing about a dozen test mags in total, hopefully going out next week (they will be metal finished with a basic harden). Test models may be a softer alloy then production as several of the dies are still in a soft state. They will show wear faster which is a good thing for finding problems. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I am still able. (Or able again after motorcycle smashing.) I'd like a close up picture of the locking lugs too. There is a fairing point or two which can smooth reloads a lot with a minor deviation from the shape of the factory mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dep714 10 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 If you need another beta tester, I'll volunteer too! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwissyJim 117 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 be happy to test them myself... marine environment, wet environment, winter... well, in a couple of months a winter environment! LOL Regardless, looks like another item to purchase from you! (.308 mags are the shit BTW) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 looks great thanks for building thiese. I hope you can keep up with the demand. Plus one for the smooth backs if you go that route 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Run and Gun 25 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Looks nice. Will these take 3" hulls to? What kind of steel are the made from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DOMIDARKO 5 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I hardly ever post anything, but, seeing this . . . there are no words. Now starting the slow clap. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nailbomb 10,221 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Oh that's pretty... I've been holding out buying mags for something like this to happen.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Looks great sir. Are these made to be fitted as the poly mags are? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hell yes 8rd steel. Can't wait Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Turbo.M777 11 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Very nice! I'd be happy to do some testing with it too! I live around the dry desert area of Utah, so I can rub in around in the sand and see how it cooperates if ya'd like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Well shit, there goes a few hundred dollars. Any way to mod these for use with a V12? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jojo200517 68 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Humm yeah the question I have is the same as Run & Gun, Will they work with 3 inch magnums or 2 3/4 inch shells only? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 They are good with 3 inch shells. We are probably going to make the production models file to fit like the poly mags. We came up with a little different idea for the rear catch, its wider than on a poly mag to spread the load out a little more. I spent most of the morning at every walmart and sporting shop in the area getting more 12 gauge shells... Apparently something happened in the last week in FL that has people worried about riots or something so all the 12 gauge ammo was gone .. I drove 100 miles to get 9 boxes of ammo, I did finally nail down a good supplier that has enough (they are spendy).. Oh well. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smb 3 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Cash in hand ready if you need another tester. Great job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
physicsnerd 139 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wow those look awesome and are quite exciting. I am sure you have enough testers but if you need on in Ohio, I can do it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I know this might be a tough question to answer, and I am real happy to see steel mags hitting the market, but do you have any timeframe on a 10rd version? Some people are 8rd, some people are 10rd, the extra lenght and weight of the 10rd mag do not bother me. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 very nice. can't wait to buy a few/ also a +1 to smoothbacks, but either is good. thanks again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nephilim7 107 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Looks very nice, csspecs. The above mentioned witness hole could be dimpled and be added by the end user if desired. As stated earlier, I'd be thrilled to test any way you like with my S12. It's a 2011, and it works like a cat's behind. My true passion is trouble shooting mechanisms like this, so I'd be very happy to systematically stress the mag to point of failure and report all results and ideas. Thanks for the consideration and the in-depth update. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 +1 on just stamping locations for witness holes. I would rather not have openings. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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