psl sniper 963 Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 (edited) went out shooting yesterday with HILLJACK from http://dragunov.us/ he brought out his ndm in .308 as well as his tiger. i brought out my tiger (the one in wood) also decided to take out the deuce for some RR. the bed makes an excellent shooting platform. heres some pics. Edited August 13, 2013 by Guest 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 some better pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
atakacorp 147 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Man i am so jealous . What ammo did you use and what was the results ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) i used a hodgepodge of different ammo that day. started out with some new production yugo ammo. then went to some 1948 yellow tipped ammo. after that shot some 1980's bulgarian light ball. then tried out some wolf light ball. we where shooting at about 200-250 yrds. main target was a heavy steel pop up plate (18") that hilljack brought. worst ammo was the 1948 yellow tipped crap. best ammo was the 1980's bulgarian steel cased light ball. ive noticed that when shooting heavier ammo through the tiger i hit higher than with light ball. not sure why that is. had to drop the sights down a bit with those rounds. i was very surprised at how accurate the bulgarian stuff was. i rang that plate without even trying with those. the 1948 stuff was all over the place. but im not surprised considering how old it was. the yugo ammo shot well. but high. and the wolf was about average. i stripped the rifle down to bare bowns and gave it a thorough cleaning and lubing. especially after dumping all that corrosive ammo through it. any way, i will say this. i dont care what anyone says about accuracy between a psl and a tiger. ive shot both. alot. im sure there are some very accurate psl's out there but they dont even begin to compare in my opinion (whatever thats worth.) in short im extremely happy i gave up the psl and moved on to the tiger. Edited August 14, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 If that yellow tipped stuff was the same as mine, it was a heavy ball ammo that the Hungarians had for the PKM. At least that's what I got off 7.62x54r dot net Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Very nice trio Has the one in the middle got a POSP 8x42 scope?, if it is has it got the elevation turret set up as a BDC for 7.62x54r?...reason I ask is I have got the settings for it if you need them. My SVDS doesn't like the heavy ball stuff,iirc they were designed to shot 150gr light ball (some nice 7n1 if you can get it). I love mine and would sooner shave my eyeballs than ever part with it.One thing I can't praise enough is the Russian bipod that clamps to the receiver, I'd recommend one if you can find one. Edited August 14, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Very nice trio Has the one in the middle got a POSP 8x42 scope?, if it is has it got the elevation turret set up as a BDC for 7.62x54r?...reason I ask is I have got the settings for it if you need them. My SVDS doesn't like the heavy ball stuff,iirc they were designed to shot 150gr light ball (some nice 7n1 if you can get it). I love mine and would sooner shave my eyeballs than ever part with it.One thing I can't praise enough is the Russian bipod that clamps to the receiver, I'd recommend one if you can find one. the one in the middle belongs to hilljack (mines in wood) the scope is a 6x and is set up just right (i shot it a few times) bipod is next on the list. it probablyy will be the chinese version as the russian ones are crazy expensive. i know the chinese ones work very well as we had a couple out that day. If that yellow tipped stuff was the same as mine, it was a heavy ball ammo that the Hungarians had for the PKM. At least that's what I got off 7.62x54r dot net i believe you are correct. it was brass cased. does that sound right? it wasnt really yellow paint like ive seen more of a clear yellow laquer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) rusmilitary.com in the UK has genuine made in Russia bipods for approx $310 + shipping, and thats the correct receiver mounted type. Edited August 15, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 rusmilitary.com in the UK has genuine made in Russia bipods for approx $310 + shipping, and thats the correct receiver mounted type. F2104.jpeg DSC_0153.jpg I can get a chinese one for $40.00 free shipping. its also the reciever mount type. i was hesitent about buying one. but after personaly trying one out (thanks to hilljack) im sold. rock solid steel construction. fits perfectly. whats not to like? yes i realize its not russian but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Is it right that on the Chinese ones theres nothing to stop the legs falling out when they are extended?.At that Price aren't they more like airsoft ones?.I was lucky with mine as it came with the rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) the one i used worked perfectly after a long range day with lots of shooting. its solid and well built. i had no problems with the legs staying in place. and yes you are lucky that yours came with one. p.s. is your tiger semi or pull back only? Edited August 15, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Very nice trio Has the one in the middle got a POSP 8x42 scope?, if it is has it got the elevation turret set up as a BDC for 7.62x54r?...reason I ask is I have got the settings for it if you need them. My SVDS doesn't like the heavy ball stuff,iirc they were designed to shot 150gr light ball (some nice 7n1 if you can get it). I love mine and would sooner shave my eyeballs than ever part with it.One thing I can't praise enough is the Russian bipod that clamps to the receiver, I'd recommend one if you can find one. the one in the middle belongs to hilljack (mines in wood) the scope is a 6x and is set up just right (i shot it a few times) bipod is next on the list. it probablyy will be the chinese version as the russian ones are crazy expensive. i know the chinese ones work very well as we had a couple out that day. If that yellow tipped stuff was the same as mine, it was a heavy ball ammo that the Hungarians had for the PKM. At least that's what I got off 7.62x54r dot net i believe you are correct. it was brass cased. does that sound right? it wasnt really yellow paint like ive seen more of a clear yellow laquer. Yup brass cased, I had bought two tins of it at the local gun store. Stuff kicked like a mule though my M44....and I liked it Sad part is the cost was $39 a tin and this goofy 7N1 stuff for $60 a tin. No I didn't buy a tin of 7N1 just a couple boxes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 i have some 7n1. to this day still have not shot it. (only have 1 pack) ive found the most accurate ammo for me has been the czech silver tip. i bought a tin awhile back and havent seen anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) the one i used worked perfectly after a long range day with lots of shooting. its solid and well built. i had no problems with the legs staying in place. and yes you are lucky that yours came with one. p.s. is your tiger semi or pull back only? Straight pull single shot only due to UK law , no mag capacity issues though.Weird thing is we can own a semi auto slug gun with drum mags legally but no semi auto rifles over .22lr Looks like its good to go on the bipod,I might look at one myself as a spare I can't find any 7n1 here in the UK, how common is it in the States? Edited August 16, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 7n1 isnt really common here. a bunch came in. then it was snatched up real quick. when you do find it for sale the price is usually rediculous. that sucks about your tiger only being a single shot. guess were the lucky ones here. also only some states have mag capacity issues.i live in new mexico (yes thats a u.s state lol) no mag laws here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct? Thats about it, and a blank piece instead of a gas piston. I've ordered one of those Chinese bipods as a spare by the way Edited August 17, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct? Thats about it, and a blank piece instead of a gas piston. I've ordered one of those Chinese bipods as a spare by the way ? you have a pic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerMoses 31 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 I can get a chinese one for $40.00 free shipping. its also the reciever mount type. i was hesitent about buying one. but after personaly trying one out (thanks to hilljack) im sold. rock solid steel construction. fits perfectly. whats not to like? yes i realize its not russian but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference. Can you PM me a link so I can get a $40 variant? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct?Thats about it, and a blank piece instead of a gas piston.I've ordered one of those Chinese bipods as a spare by the way ? you have a pic?This is the bolt carrier out of my Saiga MK/AK-104,instead of a gas piston there is a steel blank in the end that acts as a guide.It is screwed in and pinned exactly the same way as a gas piston would be.My Cugir AKM has what is essentially a gas piston with the head cut off and a piece of cylindrical steel pinned on the end to act as a guide in the gas tube,again it is screwed in and pinned exactly as a gas piston would be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 (edited) As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct?Thats about it, and a blank piece instead of a gas piston.I've ordered one of those Chinese bipods as a spare by the way ? you have a pic?This is the bolt carrier out of my Saiga MK/AK-104,instead of a gas piston there is a steel blank in the end that acts as a guide.It is screwed in and pinned exactly the same way as a gas piston would be.My Cugir AKM has what is essentially a gas piston with the head cut off and a piece of cylindrical steel pinned on the end to act as a guide in the gas tube,again it is screwed in and pinned exactly as a gas piston would be. DSC_0154.jpg so...do you have access to a real piston? how is the svd one set up? Edited August 20, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 As with AKs they don't do a lot to disable the gas system, it wouldnt take much if the SHTF ever basicly just no hole drilled. correct?Thats about it, and a blank piece instead of a gas piston.I've ordered one of those Chinese bipods as a spare by the way ? you have a pic?This is the bolt carrier out of my Saiga MK/AK-104,instead of a gas piston there is a steel blank in the end that acts as a guide.It is screwed in and pinned exactly the same way as a gas piston would be.My Cugir AKM has what is essentially a gas piston with the head cut off and a piece of cylindrical steel pinned on the end to act as a guide in the gas tube,again it is screwed in and pinned exactly as a gas piston would be.DSC_0154.jpg so...do you have access to a real piston? how is the svd one set up? The SVDS has no piston etc at all fitted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 The bipod arrived today from China and i have to say i'm very impressed, especially for the price!.The quality is on par with my Russian one and if anything the Chinese one isn't as sloppy (although my Russian one is used it hasn't been used a lot).The one i ordered was the all steel version (i believe some have aluminum clamps not steel) and i wouldn't hesitate to recommend one to other Tigr/SVD owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Installed mine the other day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Installed mine the other day.Looking good I wonder if these two will breed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Installed mine the other day.Looking good I wonder if these two will breed? DSC_0167.jpg Yours? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 (edited) Installed mine the other day.Looking good I wonder if these two will breed? DSC_0167.jpg Yours? yes indeed.i couldn't help my self, it was telling me to buy it!.On the lookout for wood furniture now,got handguards so just need a stock........and another scope, more mags etc etc!!! Edited September 9, 2013 by UKAK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Very nice. I both envy and hate you at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richUK 90 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Thank you If its any consolation I feel the same way, as yours is semi auto as Mr Dragunov intended. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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