josey88 21 Posted August 21, 2013 Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hey Josey could you pm me the link to the 74 pin. I might as well get a spare as well. PM coming your way . Disregard the first one . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinfreel 215 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Awesome thanks man! Awesome thanks man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 You would have to weld some material to the end of the firing pin where the hammer strikes. The Saiga .223 is a standard AK-74 firing pin except for having a flared portion here that acts as a spring retainer. See this thread where I posted photos and dimensions of Saiga .223 vs AK-74 pin. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/85834-saiga-223-firing-pin-dimensionsspring-specifications-modifying-ak74-bolt-to-be-sprung/ Like I said.. You can drop in a normal AK-74 firing pin right into the Saiga .223 bolt and will operate as normal. The Saiga .223 will also accept a complete 5.45x39 AK-74 bolt and will operate properly with it - however the bolt must be checked for headspacing. I'm having some Vepr/Saiga .223 and .308 firing pins made. Give me a couple months while I work with the fabricator. I hope to offer the pin/spring/ferrule package. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
josey88 21 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 You would have to weld some material to the end of the firing pin where the hammer strikes. The Saiga .223 is a standard AK-74 firing pin except for having a flared portion here that acts as a spring retainer. See this thread where I posted photos and dimensions of Saiga .223 vs AK-74 pin. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/85834-saiga-223-firing-pin-dimensionsspring-specifications-modifying-ak74-bolt-to-be-sprung/ Like I said.. You can drop in a normal AK-74 firing pin right into the Saiga .223 bolt and will operate as normal. The Saiga .223 will also accept a complete 5.45x39 AK-74 bolt and will operate properly with it - however the bolt must be checked for headspacing. I'm having some Vepr/Saiga .223 and .308 firing pins made. Give me a couple months while I work with the fabricator. I hope to offer the pin/spring/ferrule package. When you do , I will be interested in one for the Saiga .223 if it is the spring type 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 You would have to weld some material to the end of the firing pin where the hammer strikes. The Saiga .223 is a standard AK-74 firing pin except for having a flared portion here that acts as a spring retainer. See this thread where I posted photos and dimensions of Saiga .223 vs AK-74 pin. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/85834-saiga-223-firing-pin-dimensionsspring-specifications-modifying-ak74-bolt-to-be-sprung/ Like I said.. You can drop in a normal AK-74 firing pin right into the Saiga .223 bolt and will operate as normal. The Saiga .223 will also accept a complete 5.45x39 AK-74 bolt and will operate properly with it - however the bolt must be checked for headspacing. I'm having some Vepr/Saiga .223 and .308 firing pins made. Give me a couple months while I work with the fabricator. I hope to offer the pin/spring/ferrule package. When you do , I will be interested in one for the Saiga .223 if it is the spring type I'm having them made specifically for the S308 and S223. I just sent out the schematics today. I'm still in the process of spec'ing the springs and collars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinfreel 215 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 +1 cerephim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The Saiga replacement pins (in Stainless Steel hardened to C40) will start being made after Labor Day; at least that's what the fabricator says. I have no idea on how much they're gonna cost me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
josey88 21 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) The Saiga replacement pins (in Stainless Steel hardened to C40) will start being made after Labor Day; at least that's what the fabricator says. I have no idea on how much they're gonna cost me. Well, it all depends in how much you would want to charge for the pins . If it is reasonable , I will most likely order one . Edited August 28, 2013 by josey88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 The fab shop is loading the program into their CNC. Should be soon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinfreel 215 Posted October 12, 2013 Report Share Posted October 12, 2013 Awesome! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SgtRaven 531 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 The fab shop is loading the program into their CNC. Should be soon. How far can you go next? I mean, with all the talents and resources here, I hope someone would have brains and guts to start making an All-American .223 Saiga. Mancat and Cerephim, start playing Powerball Lotto. I'll buy few tickets; if I win, I'll invest in you. In a meantime, hold on tight to whatcha got, folks. And buy them darn lottery tickets... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 haha I would love to but I have zero machining experience. if I had access to a CNC and time to learn, for sure I would try to make some parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SgtRaven 531 Posted November 1, 2013 Report Share Posted November 1, 2013 Seriously speaking, it's all about the collaborative enterprise, kind of following the Century's and Krebs' proven pattern of getting their own US-made AKs. There are quality American-made barrels, trunnion/receivers, FCG, even add-on STANAG mag wells, etc, etc. We just need to get it all together and exhibit greater innovation and flexibility than being currently offered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mopar14889 1 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 Both of my Bulgarian 74's do not have spring loaded firing pins. I thought that was only for .223/556 guns? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 correct, it's generally a 5.56-only feature, though I believe some of the newer Bulgarian 7.62x39 rifles do use a sprung pin. those Bulgarians like to overbuild their AKs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Pins are being hardened this week. Should get them before the end of the year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billybobf 50 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Three pistol grip saiga 223 cabelas springfeild oregon. 999 each Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 wow that's freaking ridiculous. you can buy a decent factory AR for almost half that price now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billybobf 50 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Yeah they carry a dpms oracle for 649 or 649 with a cleaning kit and four extra 30 round mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebobrusso 27 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 why does this say the receiver and barrel are made in the USA? http://www.cabelas.com/product/CENTURY-ARMS-SAIGA-RIFLES/1776334.uts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 why does this say the receiver and barrel are made in the USA? http://www.cabelas.com/product/CENTURY-ARMS-SAIGA-RIFLES/1776334.uts the description is 100% fucked up. looks like it was lifted from a Century C93 CETME Functioning just like the CETME rifle, the Saiga C-93 is chambered in 5.56/.223. The fluted chamber allows for reliable cycling and a roller lock bolt system. Stock, pistol grip and forend are all constructed out of impact-resistant plastic. Receiver and barrel are made in the USA. As an alternative to bluing, the entire rifle is parkerized for protection. Includes one 40-rd. magazine and bayonet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bert7.62x39 10 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 I almost don't want to post this because I want to buy one with my tax return and I fear they'll be sold out by then... but... here you go for anyone interested! JG Sales has converted Saiga .223's for $549. Seems to be a good price for these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billybobf 50 Posted December 27, 2013 Report Share Posted December 27, 2013 legion has a cool one with a removable but stock, not converted, but its on sale for 530 shipped, I ordered one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SgtRaven 531 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Kalashnikov to ship up to 200,000 guns to U.S. annuallyhttp://rbth.ru/news/2014/01/16/kalashnikov_to_ship_up_to_200000_guns_to_us_annually_33307.html 17:14 January 16, 2014 Interfax The Kalahsnikov concern, which is a part of the Rostec state corporation, and the Russian Weapon Company (RWC) signed an agreement on the delivery of Kalashnikov-produced weapons to the United States and Canada as part of the Shot Show 2014 in Las Vegas. "Pavel Kolegov, Kalahsnikov concern deputy director for sales and marketing and Thomas McCrosin, RWC Group LLC CEO took part in the official signing ceremony," the Kalahsnikov concern said in a statement obtained by Interfax-AVN on Thursday. According to the contract, RWC has got an exclusive right to deliver to the United States and Canada sports and hunting weapons under Izhmash and Baikal brands produced by the Kalashnikov concern. The five-year contract envisions the shipment of 80,000 to 200,000 guns per year. RWC will not only sell but also provide maintenance services. "We expect that cooperation [with RWC] will allow us to increase the concern's share on the world's largest civil weapons market," the statement reads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tchick 52 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 JG Sales has dropped the price to $499. That's a pretty good price. http://www.jgsales.com/saiga-ak-style-rifle,-223,-20.5-barrel,-black-synthetic-stock,-new.-p-60035.html Pins are being hardened this week. Should get them before the end of the year. Any update on the replacement pins? I'm interested in one when they are ready. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cerephim 3 Posted February 6, 2014 Report Share Posted February 6, 2014 Pins are in. Email me at Cerephim at gmail dot com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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