gunsandart 1 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 First of all, let me say hello and say this is my first post here. Short back story - I think I made some rookie mistakes with my first venture into Saiga shotguns. I am starting to think my first mistake was purchasing a Legion IZ-433...but I can't change that now. Anyway, I wanted to change the hand guard and add a rail system...turns out, no one makes a rail system for the IZ-433 Type 030. Well, not releasing that, I Dremelled off my retainer and now factory handguard won't stay in place. Yes, I am an ass, but does anyone here have any solutions for me, as the gun is basically unusable at this point? This is my first issue, there are others but I need to get this fixed first! Thanks in advance! - Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Post some pics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lokmeup 30 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 you took a Dremel to an IZ-433.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Ouch. Is Legion not shipping these with an owner's manual? As you may have already figured out at this point, the gas tube is removable and it holds the hand guard retainer in position. Please post some photos and send me a PM if you're interested in having me try to fix it. IZ-433's are one of the best Saiga shotguns you can buy (at least the foundation for one) and I'm sure it can be fixed up the way you want it. Leland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 This is my first issue, there are others but I need to get this fixed first! Thanks in advance! - Jon Do what Leland has asked; photos and then a quote. My curiosity has peaked, what else needs fixing? Has anyone tried installing the Chaos Vepr-12 Quad rail on these models? This might have been the first and only option. Unfortunately for Jon even if it does work you still would need that retainer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nephilim7 107 Posted October 5, 2013 Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 May I suggest this: legionusainc.com/vepr-12-lower-handguard.html Read last line of product description. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunsandart 1 Posted October 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2013 Thanks for the response...I will take some pictures and post them...basically the photos are going to show the lower handguard retainer totally cut...so I need to either find a replacement or have one milled...I contacted Legion but never heard back from them. I will PM those that offered to help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunsandart 1 Posted October 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Alright, after a long day, I finally had a chance to take a few snaps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted October 6, 2013 Report Share Posted October 6, 2013 Post a photo of the cut hand guard retainer... I'm wondering if it can be tig welded back together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Legion USA 107 Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 The chaos quadrail will not fit our 433 models, unless you use a vepr 12 lower handguard retainer. The original retainer is way too small. Gunsandart, I sent you an email. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jasonh28 1 Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 I think this is the model I have. I dont like the gas block. Not having the adjustable gas plug.so is that the only fore grip option? I ordered one I'm not sure will fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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