Has anyone heard from Pauly?

[clubsoda 0]

Pauly has cashed my check going a year now! His number has been disconnected! No response! WTF!

I forgot to add I received no finished products either.

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

 

I had purchased, and sent to Paul for installation on the carrier etc, a heavy duty bolt. It was from from Tommy Cole at Cadiz. $40.

 

 

The part Tom Cole makes is the heavy duty gas piston, not the bolt.

Correct, sir. Thank you.

It's been so long I'm starting to forget the names of the parts!

"Tom Cole Heavy Duty Gas Piston Rod, Standard Shotgun Length"

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

It's a shame we are even having to think of replacing our parts this way.

[tapogar@gmail.com 2]

I actually bought  another Saiga 12. I am only 4 months into waiting for my parts back. My parts never made it on Pauly's list.  I was thinking of starting a topic for people who's names are not on the list. So what I have been reading is he is catching up but no one is posting that they actually have gotten their parts back? So has anyone heard from Pauly in December? I'm just looking for some hope to hold on to. Thanks guys

[TheDoberMamba 3]

I was number 4 on the list about 2 1/2 months ago (588).  I'm at about an 11 month wait now.  I haven't been able to get in touch with Pauly at all throughout the process, or in the last few days.  Hopefully everything is okay.

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

I actually bought  another Saiga 12. I am only 4 months into waiting for my parts back. My parts never made it on Pauly's list.  I was thinking of starting a topic for people who's names are not on the list. So what I have been reading is he is catching up but no one is posting that they actually have gotten their parts back? So has anyone heard from Pauly in December? I'm just looking for some hope to hold on to. Thanks guys

We always read about him catching up, but except for a few, it never quite gets caught up. Even one a week would have caught him up by now.

 

I think a thread for those not on the list would be an excellent idea. It might even help Paul figure out what's lying around.

I actually bought  another Saiga 12. I am only 4 months into waiting for my parts back. My parts never made it on Pauly's list.  I was thinking of starting a topic for people who's names are not on the list. So what I have been reading is he is catching up but no one is posting that they actually have gotten their parts back? So has anyone heard from Pauly in December? I'm just looking for some hope to hold on to. Thanks guys

It seems, over time, that fewer and fewer are even bothering to check in anymore. Paul is absent.

 

Did you buy it at Ft. Hofstetler in Brooksville?

[Maknwar 33]

So the only question I want to ask, how do I get my parts back? I could go to his house but I'm on the other side of the US. Anyone live close enough to make a trip to see if he's alive and get all of our parts back?

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

So the only question I want to ask, how do I get my parts back? I could go to his house but I'm on the other side of the US. Anyone live close enough to make a trip to see if he's alive and get all of our parts back?

Now you're getting to the heart of the issue...

[brickfield mfg 86]

Unfortunately, I think most people will be lucky if they ever see their parts again. The legal action required to force him to do the right thing, and give people back their parts, would be cost prohibitive. And he knows this! The only recourse I can see would be to get the U.S. Postal authorities involved (since what he has done constitutes mail fraud I believe), let them seize the parts, and hope they can return them to the rightful owners.

[Maknwar 33]

If I don't get a response back from him this week, I'm going to take action. I don't take getting lied to and being ripped off lightly.

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

If I don't get a response back from him this week, I'm going to take action. I don't take getting lied to and being ripped off lightly.

If you get any response, you'll be the first in quite awhile. I've called, PM'd and e-mailed. I've offered to pay extra to get the job done.

Nothing, nada, zippo.

[gunman1 1,753]

Unfortunately, I think most people will be lucky if they ever see their parts again. The legal action required to force him to do the right thing, and give people back their parts, would be cost prohibitive. And he knows this! The only recourse I can see would be to get the U.S. Postal authorities involved (since what he has done constitutes mail fraud I believe), let them seize the parts, and hope they can return them to the rightful owners.

 

^^^^^^This sounds about right, perhaps violation of interstate commerce laws also.

 

On another note, the sad truth is that most alcoholics NEVER recover and they continue, like a tornado, to rip through the lives of everyone. The usual actions of an alcoholic is to lie, cheat, and steal the security of other people, intentional or not, the outcome is the same...not much wonder that most doctors don't trust an alcoholic as far as they can throw one. Of course I'm just speaking of my own experience here.

[tapogar@gmail.com 2]

I bought it from Atlantic Firearms had it shipped in to Berts Hunting Supplies in Hudson. Are the people at Ft. Hofstetler good people? If so I will have to check them out in the future. Brooksville is around the way.

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

I bought it from Atlantic Firearms had it shipped in to Berts Hunting Supplies in Hudson. Are the people at Ft. Hofstetler good people? If so I will have to check them out in the future. Brooksville is around the way.

I bought my now useless Saiga 12 from them. I have purchased a few other things firearms through them. I have found them to be very honest, and reliable.

 

Ridge Manor

 

Unfortunately, I think most people will be lucky if they ever see their parts again. The legal action required to force him to do the right thing, and give people back their parts, would be cost prohibitive. And he knows this! The only recourse I can see would be to get the U.S. Postal authorities involved (since what he has done constitutes mail fraud I believe), let them seize the parts, and hope they can return them to the rightful owners.

 

 

^^^^^^This sounds about right, perhaps violation of interstate commerce laws also.

 

On another note, the sad truth is that most alcoholics NEVER recover and they continue, like a tornado, to rip through the lives of everyone. The usual actions of an alcoholic is to lie, cheat, and steal the security of other people, intentional or not, the outcome is the same...not much wonder that most doctors don't trust an alcoholic as far as they can throw one. Of course I'm just speaking of my own experience here.

So, what is the proper way to advertise a Saiga 12 without a trigger assembly, or any bolt action for sale?

 

""Never fired, gutted S-12 for sale. Lowest bidders will be considered."

 

Pissed, pissed, pissed...

[brickfield mfg 86]

I wonder how difficult it would be to modify a standard bolt carrier for use with the S12? Then there would just be the bolt to contend with...

[Cobra 76 two 2,677]

I was just on the phone the other day with R&R Racing and they will have a complete set in production before long. Complete bolt and bolt carrier....

[brickfield mfg 86]

Not sure if it would even be cost effective, or if it would be better to part out what you have left and put that money towards a new base gun!

[Maknwar 33]

If everyone pitches in for my plane ticket, I will go get them all back. Who's in? Round trip ticket is about $650.

[Billybobf 50]

If someone could actually get in touch with him, and make arrangments. and you are willing to call your funds a loss, plus $6 flat rate shipping. I would gladly go pick up anyones parts (its a three hour drive for me, but my kids like going to the zoo.  

 

what this means is someone has to get his approval for me to come pick up parts,

 

then a list of people with proof of ownership who want there parts back no matter the current condition. shipping is approximate as I dont know the carrier with piston will fit in a flat rate box. 

 

then a deadline for proof of ownership will have to be set, as I am not going to make multiple trips, and I will not TOUCH A SINGLE PART that I do not have information on. 

 

also, if only ten people say ok, Im not gonna make the trip for that either. this needs to be a group effort. 

 

ONE OTHER OPTION, and would work for those of you that want the polish done, if five or more people got me proof of ownership and wanted there parts shipped to a single location (maybe CC for a polish) I would want at least a few people doing this. it would save me effort, wrap them and ship them in a single large flat rate box.  my only concern with that is if he lets me pick them up and half are polished half arent kinda deal, I would need enough people to make it worth it to ship.  if your bolt and carrier are DONE, you will be required to pay me more shipping, but not pay shipping to have yours done, maybe a few extra bucks to get the bulk ship through. this will take a while to figure out so let me know what you guys think. ALSO figure out more defined plans. it would be GREAT for me, if I could just go pick up EVERYONES parts who wants them and ship them to one location. 

 

this being said I will only go if someone gets approval from Pauly for me to come pick them up as until that point I am not involved with this in any way

[tapogar@gmail.com 2]

I would take the loss and throw a few more bucks in to get my parts back. Pauly has not responded to me so I'm no help there.

[Shandlanos 1,470]

If someone could actually get in touch with him, and make arrangments. and you are willing to call your funds a loss, plus $6 flat rate shipping. I would gladly go pick up anyones parts (its a three hour drive for me, but my kids like going to the zoo.  

 

what this means is someone has to get his approval for me to come pick up parts,

 

then a list of people with proof of ownership who want there parts back no matter the current condition. shipping is approximate as I dont know the carrier with piston will fit in a flat rate box. 

 

then a deadline for proof of ownership will have to be set, as I am not going to make multiple trips, and I will not TOUCH A SINGLE PART that I do not have information on. 

 

also, if only ten people say ok, Im not gonna make the trip for that either. this needs to be a group effort. 

 

ONE OTHER OPTION, and would work for those of you that want the polish done, if five or more people got me proof of ownership and wanted there parts shipped to a single location (maybe CC for a polish) I would want at least a few people doing this. it would save me effort, wrap them and ship them in a single large flat rate box.  my only concern with that is if he lets me pick them up and half are polished half arent kinda deal, I would need enough people to make it worth it to ship.  if your bolt and carrier are DONE, you will be required to pay me more shipping, but not pay shipping to have yours done, maybe a few extra bucks to get the bulk ship through. this will take a while to figure out so let me know what you guys think. ALSO figure out more defined plans. it would be GREAT for me, if I could just go pick up EVERYONES parts who wants them and ship them to one location. 

 

this being said I will only go if someone gets approval from Pauly for me to come pick them up as until that point I am not involved with this in any way

It's a great idea and cool of you to offer, but it sounds like he's incommunicado. Not likely to respond to grant permission to anyone to take anything.

[gunfun 3,931]

If everyone pitches in for my plane ticket, I will go get them all back. Who's in? Round trip ticket is about $650.

 

Does that include bail?

[Billybobf 50]

 

If everyone pitches in for my plane ticket, I will go get them all back. Who's in? Round trip ticket is about $650.

 

Does that include bail?

 

hence me wanting permission from pauly first, lol

[Tundra1 391]

I wonder if a bunch of calls to the better business bureau would yield you guys any results.  If it were my parts in jeopardy i'd be looking at a solution outside of the forums at this point.  I feel for you guys, hope it works out soon.

[Sport Rescue 245]

The BBB will only try and email, phone or snail mail him. Then with no response they will grade him and you will call it a loss.

[Tundra1 391]

At what point would this qualify as cyber crime?  Theft?  He advertised as an actual business, not like it was some fly by night guy with a PO box and a bench grinder.  Certainly there are avenues that could be taken.  Like I said earlier, if it were my parts at this point I would be looking at other options.  And I would give the BBB a holler weather it helped or not.  Might help someone else from getting screwed down the road.

[Maknwar 33]

 

 

If everyone pitches in for my plane ticket, I will go get them all back. Who's in? Round trip ticket is about $650.

Does that include bail?

No it does not. Of course I would simply talk to him and maybe even help.

[Crooked.Keenan 1]

Just got a reply back from Pauly on my parts. Looks like they are done and will be shipping shortly.

 

Did you get your parts back?

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

I had a long conversation with Paul on Sunday morning as well as this morning.

 

He informed me that despite any “internet rumors” you may have heard, and the obvious “trolling” that transpired in multiple threads, nothing is lost, the shop is open, and he is working to complete ALL orders that he has in his shop, in the order that they were received, and everyone will get their orders completed with the advertised quality.

 

In his current estimate it would take up to 3 months to clear the backlog of the orders. He is not currently advertising and will not be accepting new orders until the backlog is cleared and everyone has the parts back in their hands.

 

Pauly's STEELIN section and a couple of other threads providing contact information for the customers will remain on the forum.

 

The PM overflow with Paul’s Inbox has been addressed.

 

Customer Contact Information:

 

You can send Paul a PM  (if you are a forum member)

 

Email: paulyski@gmail.com

 

Phone: (971) 209-2711

 

 

Please, do not expect an immediate answer to you inquiry as the time that it takes to answer PMs, emails, and phone call is the time taken from production and production takes priority.

 

P.S. I would like to thank members that have already done so and ask others to report to this thread as they receive their parts back from Paul and let others know of the progress that is being made.

 

Thx,

Max

So, Max, what's the word at this point? Any conversations about what's doing?

[bikerabbi@yahoo.com 20]

I wonder if a bunch of calls to the better business bureau would yield you guys any results.  If it were my parts in jeopardy i'd be looking at a solution outside of the forums at this point.  I feel for you guys, hope it works out soon.

Thanks for the empathy. With other things I've had done to it, I've got a $1250 bunch of steel. Hmmmm, is it worth more because it's never been fired?

There is really nothing that can be done unless someone knows where the parts, or Paul, are, and be close enough to reach out and touch.

[spoolinspoon 2]

 

 

Just got a reply back from Pauly on my parts. Looks like they are done and will be shipping shortly.

 

Did you get your parts back?

Nope. Have sent a couple emails and left a voicemail. Nada.