jake666 0 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Been looking at the 2 lately . Saigas are gettn hard to find . Hell unconverted ones are goin over 800 if u find one. I found a few 223 veprs for a decent price . But there not as popular as the saigas. I'm wanting to switch the finger hole stock off cause I'm left handed and they don't fit well . And really leaning to do the ar mag adaptor since I have a few dozen ar mags . So should I hold out for a saiga or do the vepr thing ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 either one is great. the VEPR is heavier overall due to using the heavier RPK receiver, and will have a thicker barrel which could mean better consistency in accuracy, especially if you want the 20" bbl model. the Saiga is lighter due to using the lighter AKM receiver and lighter barrel, and at the moment has more aftermarket support and parts. the AR adapters can be made to work with either one. don't know that I could tell you which one to choose out of the two. I would NOT pay $800 for an unconverted .223 Saiga, no way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avnate 335 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 The VEPR is the better buy at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jake666 0 Posted November 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2013 yeah im lookn at a 30 doller diffrance between a converted saiga and a new in box vepr with the thumb hole stock witch i cant use .i do like the wood stock look and feel so id like to put wood on the saiga if i got it. thats kind of a wash between the 2 cause id need to switch off the thumb hole anyhow . in the 5.56 idont think either would ever have durabilty issues between the heavy reciver on the vepr and the thinner one on the saiga . the finish is much nicer on the vepr . but i have to admit im kind of a saiga fan i guess more then the vepr just cause i own a saiga12 too . but i hear such good things with the vepr .. guess i buy both huh lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 I'd buy which ever one you can get a better deal on. New VEPR are available, but they are primarily V2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 one nice thing about the VEPR is that you won't have to deal with the remnants of the funky Saiga trigger group relocation. the VEPRs all have the trigger groups in the correct spot, with a regular trigger guard/mag catch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 Only draw back to the VEPR is that the receiver and magwell is AK74 instead of AK47. So you options for mags are the a bit less since you have to use VEPR factory, Beryl, Bulgarian Circle 10, or Promag (promag not so good). You could have the mag well opened on a mill if you want more mag options. I have both and you'll have a great rifle either way you just need to know the specifics of what you'll run into and decide which works for you and your abilities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jake666 0 Posted November 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 yeah iv been back and forth . think im going with a converted saiga 20 inch . i do like the vepr alot .but to be hounst i think its cause of the wood lol . i can allways switch to a wood kit for the saiga if i want . now to do more research on the ar mag conversion . gets scary grinding on a new gun though lol but only haveing to carry one kind of mag and ammo is a nice idea ,,, i allmost bought a yugo underfolder lastnight too .. price was hard to beat .. but i passed . sent a freind of mine to get it lol that way if i want it ill just buy it off him lol .. but not a underfolder fan as much as a fixed stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted November 12, 2013 Report Share Posted November 12, 2013 yeah iv been back and forth . think im going with a converted saiga 20 inch . i do like the vepr alot .but to be hounst i think its cause of the wood lol . i can allways switch to a wood kit for the saiga if i want . now to do more research on the ar mag conversion . gets scary grinding on a new gun though lol but only haveing to carry one kind of mag and ammo is a nice idea ,,, i allmost bought a yugo underfolder lastnight too .. price was hard to beat .. but i passed . sent a freind of mine to get it lol that way if i want it ill just buy it off him lol .. but not a underfolder fan as much as a fixed stock J&G sales has both 16 and 20 inch barrel converted Saiga 223's for $630. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jake666 0 Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 yep thats were iv been lookn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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