XdamagedX 248 Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Back in June I ordered a SHF KEG-12. ("Improved" Serbu knockoff, 2+1 Mossberg AOW... pretty sweet IMHO) I've waited relatively patiently so far (as patient as someone can wait on a new toy THAT cool I suppose). I got a message today from the out-of-state company I bought it from... DENIED. Apparently my local gun store either lied about having the right SOT/c3/whatever license it takes to transfer class 3 firearms, or gave them seller the wrong info. 5 months of waiting wasted. Looks like tomorrow I get to stop in and try to sort this mess out and start over...BOO!!! commence angry emoticon bomb: ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 No matter their excuse, I would be fucking livid and starting over with a different FFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted November 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Stopped into the LGS today... after trying to talk his way out of it, and denying he had even talked to anyone about such a firearm, he finally admitted "yes, I sent the stores FFL not my class 3" ...yeah... yeah you did. Chile "fucking livid" pretty much describes it. I'd like to give him an honest try to fix it from here on out, even though there's NO room for error with something like this... so we'll see how it turns out. And I know it's a dumb reason but the next closest C3 dealer I could find is 2 hours away and costs 3 times as much for the transfer... apparently a little more money would have let me shortcut the bullshit. Mike I'm expecting 5+ months for it to be transferred to my LGS. If it took that long for it to get back for the rejection, I'd be willing to bet it's a fair estimate it would be the same for the approval. Again: I expected a wait, but this isn't what I expected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remek 771 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 I've never purchased one before, but it is pretty clear to me that form 2 items are denied on the basis of formality errors constantly. I know you do not have total control, but I'd go with a different dealer, and ask to double check every step of the process. They obviously won't let you do everything, but I also think they might have no problem with you double checking the documents before they are sent. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 That sucks! Hope you can get it all worked out. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VanKiller 322 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Corrections are usually attended to pretty promptly by NFA branch..... but the denied forms usually go back to start. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted November 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Here's wishing you weren't 1 state away Tom, that would have shortcutted a LOT of bullshit in itself Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slostang 80 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Try to find a dealer that efiles their form 3's and 4's. Efiles form 3's are turning around in the 20-30 day range here lately. Some people are reporting efiled 4's are turning in about 4 months. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Fool me once shame on me fool me twice..... I wont be fooled again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zombiehunter762 376 Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 The fish always stinks at the head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Fool me once shame on me fool me twice..... I wont be fooled again. close Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Update: ATF called the other morning, left me a message saying my fingerprint cards were missing information.... good to know my transferor is on top of his game*sarcasm*. I'll be making sure to leave bad reviews for him everywhere possible. This guy shouldn't be in business. Luckily I was able to give them my information over the phone. If nothing else, this was somewhat of an update, lets me know my paperwork isn't in a box on the floor anymore and is actually taking up space on someones desk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nlacy 692 Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Please enlighten the rest of us in MI. Who was it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Lapeer Military Surplus/ Frank Vanpaepeghem Ordered out of state on 6-19-13 Disapproved 11-15-13 (sent wrong FFL number) Frank said he would call and take care of the problem, I had to hassle and remind him there was a problem. Had to resubmit Information and start over. Approval 3-9-14, received by Frank shortly thereafter Did not have any fingerprint cards, said he would order more from the ATF, after weeks of hassle, I had the out of state seller send some to me personally. Frank then said he would have the form 4's filled out, had to stop in to the store multiple times, and they were never completed, I had to fill them out myself. Forms finally sent in May, around 5-10-14 One of my visits in May, they were complaining loudly throughout the shop that a different customer had also been given the wrong FFL# and had also wasted 5 months on a transfer 1-2-15 ATF informed me my fingerprint cards weren't filled out correctly (luckily, I was able to correct via a phone call) I reminded Frank 1-15-15 that my approval was on its way, and double checked he had my contact information I called the ATF status line on 1-16-15 and they said my stamp was approved 1-7-15 Then I stopped by Lapeer Military 1-17-15, Frank told me that the stamp arrived the afternoon of 1-15-15 but could not find my contact information. The only 2 GOOD points I can make about my transaction through Lapeer Military are the following: ~$75 Class 3 transfer is $100+ cheaper than any surrounding businesses. ~Frank made special arrangements so I could pick up my firearm after hours I would NOT recommend Lapeer Military Surplus for any Class3 firearm transfers. There were too many mistakes made, and I basically had to do the transfer process Myself with the help of the original out of state dealer I had purchased the gun from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nlacy 692 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 That blows man. I've gotten 3 stamps through Ed at Mission Critical in Shelby Township. He can be a little surly at times (I think because he's got a successful business that is growing fast), but he knows his shit and I've been very satisfied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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