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I received this e-mail the other morning.  You can imagine my surprise when I read it.  After the initial setbacks with the release, things seemed to be going well.   Obviously the product is selling.  If Bjorn is indeed ending production and this isn't just a genius marketing ploy, maybe he will give/sell the rights of ownership and production.  I hadn't seen anything else about this on the forum.  But hey, I spent 45 minutes looking for a 10mm boxed end wrench that I had in my hand the entire time.

Kushnapup availability email0001.pdf

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Often times a product does not generate the profit needed for its cost of operation.. Or the molds could have been damaged.

 

Example: If I was only selling saiga .308 magazines I would need a full time job to eat, and the machines would sit idle for months on end. Just because you make something does not mean you'll be profitable.

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Point well made.  I spent a total of 30 years in the auto parts business.  I should have known that.  They say the first thing to go is the mind.  The reasons could be boundless.  Had a customer in LA that serviced a car club.  after 10 years he got so fed up with people trying to scam him he just quit. Not saying that is the case here.  Just hate to see a nifty product go by the way side.  There are so many things that can be done with that stock.  I haven't looked in awhile, but how are the trials going on the S12 mags?

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Man I hate to see any small company go under! Although the bullpup design is not for me, I would hope that they can at least make a few bucks selling off the design to a larger company that can afford to continue the product(just because I am not fond of the bullpup does not mean others feel the same).

 

I know it is tough to be the little guy in this country, as business go, but at some point if it is not profitable, it is time to move on!

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I think center balance has had them out for a while. the issue is he makes them in small, expensive batches.

Just out of curiosity, what would really be considered "expensive" for a drop in kit that completely transforms your weapon into something better, shorter, and faster using actual high quality parts? I mean not a mass produced injection molded cookie cutter kit, but something more traditional, sturdy and modular.

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I mean more than I can afford. To other guys, it might be cheap.

 

A ~$400 accessory is expensive to me, even if it might be worth it. "Expensive" could be a number a lot less than the cost of manufacturing.  Center Balance's price is a number that is more than half the price of the base gun. It's a lot less than having a conversion done by some shops, so "expensive" is also obviously a term relative to other considerations. "Expensive" is also relative to the overall quality and level of improvement, or value. His kit looked well made but very heavy. His quality is obviously high, but the weight factors against the overall improvement. Style, exclusivity and personalization are also aspects of value.

 

So to me, that makes me less interested in his S12 kit, but still kinda interested. I'd like to try one, but I'm not in line to buy one. His draco kit, on the other hand has a BATF letter saying it still counts as a pistol. In WA, that's a bargain at almost any price. The value of that package is a lot higher to me. It think the overall package is more appealing stylistically too. The Mosin Nagant kit just looks silly to me. (If I wanted a mosin, my primary interest would be either collecting history, or having a cheap shooter, not having something I can balance in one hand.)

 

 A $200 tax stamp is expensive to me too, but someday I would like to have a few. 

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When I contacted CenterBalance for a unit for my Mossberg Plinkster, which I know would be TWICE the price of the gun, I got this for a response. 

 

 
We no longer offer a unit for the 702 -
 
 
Best regards,
 
Bernie Rolfe
 
Too bad, so sad. I know I could have sold the ATI Tactical set-up it's in now and recouped a good portion of the expense of the CB stock.
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It doesn't surprise me at all.

 

That thing was a novelty and was built on a dream and sketchy means of obtaining the start up cash. When it finally came out, just in time to avoid getting sued or aced, it was on the level of a prototype where customers had to modify the product to make it work on a very simple receiver.

 

It may be injection molded impact resistant polymer but, it will always be a shitty stock.

 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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It doesn't surprise me at all.

 

That thing was a novelty and was built on a dream and sketchy means of obtaining the start up cash. When it finally came out, just in time to avoid getting sued or aced, it was on the level of a prototype where customers had to modify the product to make it work on a very simple receiver.

 

It may be injection molded impact resistant polymer but, it will always be a shitty stock.

 

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

Wow, you sure have a ax to grind.  I think that they are well designed awesome stocks.   No problems here.

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