Steelart99 0 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Just got my Saiga 7.62x39 two days ago and trying to plan my conversion. I would like to get the Phoenix Kicklite stock and add a grip and G2 trigger set. I have a repaired shoulder that I'd like to minimize the recoil impact on. So I keep seeing the Kicklite stock with an included grip that uses the back placed trigger group (stock). Can I just get the Kicklite stock, a G2 trigger kit and a grip to make a conversion that moves the trigger forward and adds a grip (where the stock trigger is)? Gotta start somewhere. Thanks ... be gentle .... I'm new at this. Edited December 5, 2013 by Steelart99 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Anything is possible with enough time and effort. I am not familiar with this stock setbut I would almost guarantee you could cut it up and get it to work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Since you are already planning on doing a full back end conversion it would probably work and look best with a regular ak stock of your choice with separate pistol grip. Taking a 'soft conversion' stock/pistol grip combo and chopping it up to try to make it work after moving your trigger forward would be way more headache than just picking up a stock meant for an aks ass end. Lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 consider a recoil pad or lighter round if the shoulder really is that bad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steelart99 0 Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Since you are already planning on doing a full back end conversion it would probably work and look best with a regular ak stock of your choice with separate pistol grip. Taking a 'soft conversion' stock/pistol grip combo and chopping it up to try to make it work after moving your trigger forward would be way more headache than just picking up a stock meant for an aks ass end. Lol. There is a version of the stock without the integral grip. So I'm thinking that stock, a good grip and a moved trigger group. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steelart99 0 Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 consider a recoil pad or lighter round if the shoulder really is that bad My shoulder is usable, but I just don't want to tempt fate and re-injure it. It's taken almost a year to recover from the surgery. The Phoneix Kicklite gets good reviews, but I just didn't know how well it was configured for use on the 7.62x39 with the trigger conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bert7.62x39 10 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Carolina Shooters Supply has that stock as a drop-in part... just buy a separate pistol grip. They're advertising it for the Saiga 12 too... so if they're confident enough to say it's recoil-reducing for a 12 gauge, you ought to be fine with it in 7.62x39. They actually say that the stock was specifically configured for stamped AK's and Saiga shotguns. If you cut off your barrel shroud and thread it (if it isn't already factory-threaded) or swap out the factory front sight block with a threaded front sight block, you could put on a muzzle brake (AK-74 style maybe?) that further reduces recoil too. Edited December 5, 2013 by ouroboros Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steelart99 0 Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 I see that I can actually put together the "package" I was discussing at CSS. A bit pricey when all was said and done. The muzzle break is an idea I'll have to pursue next year. All it takes is money thanks for the lead! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dashowdy 141 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Get a proper 74 brake really keeps it down, the k-var replica works well, if you can swing the compliance count pick up a zig zag brake and mill it out, Makes the 7.62x39 smooth as silk, really not needed on the 5.45 but it still works. I just bought a rwc half converted 5.45, my first upgrade is bulgarian fsb and bulgarian zig zag brake, furniture to follow this spring. Edited December 5, 2013 by dashowdy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Mako makes several shock absorbing AK stocks. Reduce recoil and muzzle rise with a six-position collapsible stock system for AK47 rifles. Includes tube and our GLR16 stock. Fits AK rifles using unique receiver block that expands to perfectly fit stamped receivers when screws are tightened. Requires no fitting for most stamped AK-47/74 rifles. Perfect for Saiga shotgun conversions. Effective recoil compensation system. MIL-SPEC reinforced polymer composite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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