swimbikerun247 1 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 I'm in the middle of converting a dimpled Saiga x39 into an AK103. I'm already making plans for the next project. But my question is what is the best base rifle to start with for a AKS-74U Krinkov build? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 best beginning is to start from a demilled kit, get a bluejack barrel and a new receiver. be warned it isnt cheap 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) none.. if you start from a full-size rifle you will get terrible results. 8" barrel Krinkovs (standard Krink bbl length) require a faster twist rate than even a 12" carbine barrel. you might be able to get OK results with such a project in 7.62x39, but 5.45 or 5.56, no way - they will have to have the faster twist rate. also so many specific parts on a Krink, you will be basically stripping the rifle down to bare parts any way if you want to get things like the correct hinged dust cover and combo GB/FSB. if you want a Krink, the best deal right now is the Zastava M92 or M85.. it isn't a "true" Krink but it's 90% similar and most people won't be able to tell the difference when in rifle form. $500 for a factory-made Krink style gun that just needs a stock and SBR form or 6" barrel extension? hell yes. I love mine, the quality is absolutely excellent. Edited December 9, 2013 by mancat 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) my opinion, you would be better off finding a ARSENAL 106ur, chrome lined barrel, 1:7 twist. and cutting the barrel down to 8 inches after you get the approved form back. 4 reason why I say that. 1) the 106 is a 5.56, so ammo isn't subject to importation treaty, it's always going to be available. think long term 2) you can still enjoy shooting it, while you wait for the 9+ months for your approved form to come back. with a parts kit gun, all you can do is look at the parts, or put all the pieces close together and look at it, for 9+ months 3) when you get the approved form back, it will take you about 1 or 2 hours, to take off the front site, cut and crown the barrel, put the front sight back on, and you can take it out to the range the same day. faster then building a kit gun. 4) the 106ur is the spitting image of a AKS-74U. except for the caliber I SBR'd a OOW 74 receiver back in 2004, they were the only company that made a true 74 receiver, no one else at the time was making them. folks were modifying AKM receivers for their 74s. had the thing built from pieces and parts. but then a couple of months ago, I got to thinking; once 5.45 ammo dries up, then what? I got a nice wall hanger. so, I found a SLR 106ur, just submitted the paperwork, last month. Edited December 9, 2013 by Matthew Hopkins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Matthew has a good point. Since you can't get new SLR-106UR rifles any more from K-var anyways there are still a few sitting on dealer rack here or there but not many. I went with the SLR-106UR pistol a little more work but it get you there all the same all I had to do was buy the latch compontets from russiansurplus.net and have 3 holes milled out. WARNING if you go this route get the pistol that has the 8" barrel and threaded GB NOT the 10" barrel with NON-threaded GB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timber Wolf 0 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I would not argue with anyone wanting to buy a gun. But getting something in .223/5.56, when/if you already have something in 5.45, because of ammo concerns is just silly. 5.45 is still cheap and available enough to lay in right now. Not doing so because you think you can get .223 later is a fool's choice IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 From what I understand, domestic 5.45 ammo (and therefore brass) is becoming available. No doubt there would be more market incentive to produce more if there were no foreign competition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Mancat brings up a good point. Any of the 16" bbl rifles will not have the correct twist rate for a Krink. The 8" Krink should have a 1:6.3 vs. the standard 1:7.68. Id suggest a parts kit like Beefcake pointed out if your wanting to go in that direction. And yeah, it wont be cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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