TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Due to popular demand, I had a custom M22 x .75 tap made in order to thread the flash hiders for the factory threaded barrels. I hope I sell a few of these since the tap cost $130. They will run $49ea, same as the others even though they take a bit more work to do. http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=363189 Tony Rumore Tromix Corp 918 251-5640 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integratedj 1 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 Damn Tony, those look evil. I'll be needing one shortly here, just need to finish dealing with the Refi on my house, and then I'll call you for one. IJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 8, 2006 Report Share Posted January 8, 2006 tony, can you thread the muzzles of cut barrels or those without threads for the factory barrel "elongater" that the factory makes too, and the chokes, is what you are saying? (just to make it clear before anyone asks???) or do you just have the tap and not the die made? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wanta12 0 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 tony, can you thread the muzzles of cut barrels or those without threads for the factory barrel "elongater" that the factory makes too, and the chokes, is what you are saying? (just to make it clear before anyone asks???) or do you just have the tap and not the die made? Usually folks cut threads on a lathe, a die is not necessary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacticalResponse 0 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 tony, can you thread the muzzles of cut barrels or those without threads for the factory barrel "elongater" that the factory makes too, and the chokes, is what you are saying? (just to make it clear before anyone asks???) or do you just have the tap and not the die made? Usually folks cut threads on a lathe, a die is not necessary. If you have a Russian made lathe you can cut those threads. I don't expect Tony to be importing one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think it just has to be a metric lathe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacticalResponse 0 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I think it just has to be a metric lathe [/quote If those threads are cut at an odd angle, a normal metric lathe wouldn't do it. Some machine work done in Eastern European countries is a little different. You have to improvise at times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I only bought a tap, not a die.....at least so far. My American made South Bend lathe is not geared to cut metric threads. I can thread barrels 7/8-28 and make 7/8-28 flash hiders, but that would not allow the OEM attachments to work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TacticalResponse 0 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Share Posted January 9, 2006 I only bought a tap, not a die.....at least so far. My American made South Bend lathe is not geared to cut metric threads. I can thread barrels 7/8-28 and make 7/8-28 flash hiders, but that would not allow the OEM attachments to work. My uncle used to be the largest used machinery dealer in the midwest and upper midwestern United States Tony. If your ever in need of a good used lathe that can cut metric threads, maybe I could still find you a good deal on one. Anything to help the cause. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vern 0 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Now that it looks like my Saiga is on it's way, I can look at goodies like this. It looks great but it's not exactly what I am looking for. I need a compensator not a flash hider. Can you do those as well? It looks like the flash hider would work if you left out one or two of the vents on the bottom, sort of like the military M-16 flash hiders, they have more slots on the top and sides than on the bottom thus venting more gas and keeping the muzzle down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ranger55 0 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Tony What is the OAL? Can I order on line or do I need to call? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The OAL is 2.5". After it is screwed on, it adds 1.75" to the barrel. I can make them with no slots on one side if you want, but you would have to locktite it in place to keep it indexed correctly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vern 0 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 The one side no slots would be great. I had in mind useing it with an after market front sight and modifying the sight by adding a locator pin like the Romanian AKs have. I should have my gun by the end of the month and I'll let you know then the particulars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill45 0 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Tony, ya gonna make them for the 20 gauge? I would definitely be interested. thanx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I already made one for the 20ga, but it was a smooth bond-in-place affair. Are any of the 20's threaded? And if so, what is the thread diameter and pitch? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 I don't believe any that were imported were threaded. At least I haven't seen any... I'd be interested in 2 of the S-20 FH's like this - minus the threads. Would they be bonded then? I can't remember how you've done the S-12's. Set screws would be fine as well. I can mic the o.d. of the barrels & get you the #'s. You should start a thread for 'em & gauge interest. I imagine it would be better to do a batch. I need to wait for $$ from uncle sam first. (like everyone else) Hopefully when the new guns are in, you won't be too swamped to do these kick-ass projects! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardcorps1775 1 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 i like the m-16 idea...closed bottom, no port on top. you have side and angled upper slots for something of a comp and no flash shooting up into your line of sight. maybe make it longer to compensate for the charge of a shotgun round? love the crown, don't change that for anything! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Yeah, just give me the 20ga barrel dims and I can make you one, no problem. On another note, I just dropped $150 today on a M22x.75 die so I will be able to cut factory threads on the barrels. I will have to first chuck the barreled action up in the lathe, set the steady rest at the back end, then turn/true up OD of the barrel using a centered mandrel in the bore. A set screw would be run through the side of the barrel at the very tip to anchor it to the mandrel. After the nominal diameter is cut, I will then part off the very tip of the barrel where the set screw was and clean up the crown with a piloted face cutter. Then take the die and insert it into a long guide, slide the assembly over the barrel and cut the new threads. $45 if you want this added to your Tromix conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 11, 2006 Report Share Posted January 11, 2006 Thanks! On the threading...where there's a will, there's a way! Not a bad price either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 12, 2006 Report Share Posted January 12, 2006 Tony, You could make an internal expanding collet. Before turning the collet to size, bore a 1/4" hole through the center, mill 3 thin slots at the end, and compress that part before turning to finish size. Then all you need is a piece of 1/4 drill rod with a bullet tip ground on one end to expand the collet in the bore. That should save several steps. G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill45 0 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 I don't believe any that were imported were threaded. At least I haven't seen any... I'd be interested in 2 of the S-20 FH's like this - minus the threads. Would they be bonded then? I can't remember how you've done the S-12's. Set screws would be fine as well. I can mic the o.d. of the barrels & get you the #'s. You should start a thread for 'em & gauge interest. I imagine it would be better to do a batch. I need to wait for $$ from uncle sam first. (like everyone else) Hopefully when the new guns are in, you won't be too swamped to do these kick-ass projects! Hey Tony, do you have the specs on the 20 gauge yet? I would like one of these crack head go to sleep FH for my S20. Let me know a price and i'll get it off in the mail ASAP! I would like the non threaded one. thanx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 13, 2006 Report Share Posted January 13, 2006 (edited) Roadkill45 - Tony needs the O.D. dimension of the muzzle. I'll throw some calipers on mine & my buddy's S-20's tonight & post. If you can, do the same. Both of my S-20's (2002 models) and my buddy's (2000 model)bores were 0.623" I.D.. The O.D.'s are probably similiar. I thought it was .796" or close to it. Put your info in this thread while you're at it... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=8082 edited to add: Mine and Craig's are both .795" O.D. Edited January 13, 2006 by dinzag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill45 0 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 Roadkill45 - Tony needs the O.D. dimension of the muzzle. I'll throw some calipers on mine & my buddy's S-20's tonight & post. If you can, do the same. Both of my S-20's (2002 models) and my buddy's (2000 model)bores were 0.623" I.D.. The O.D.'s are probably similiar. I thought it was .796" or close to it. Put your info in this thread while you're at it... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=8082 edited to add: Mine and Craig's are both .795" O.D. hmmmm....Russian consistency? .795 OD, what are the chances of that quality control? LOL Are you going for a clamp on or threaded? clampy for me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodgeturbointerceptor 1 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 That is the sickest flash hider in existence! I love that shit! That would tear the fuck up out of my gun bag though....LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roadkill45 0 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 That is the sickest flash hider in existence! I love that shit! That would tear the fuck up out of my gun bag though....LOL put a 1 1/2 inch black cane/crutch tip on it while in transit! That is the sickest flash hider in existence! I love that shit! That would tear the fuck up out of my gun bag though....LOL put a 1 1/2 inch black cane/crutch tip on it while in transit! So there's at least 8 orders for the "no thread" killer, let's start production!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH BABY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dodgeturbointerceptor 1 Posted January 14, 2006 Report Share Posted January 14, 2006 There you go!!! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerad 0 Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I'll take one without threads when you make them. Jerad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 20, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 I won't make any until someone actually orders one............like sends money or gives me a CC number. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen 0 Posted January 21, 2006 Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 I won't make any until someone actually orders one............like sends money or gives me a CC number. Now are these russian manu, altered by you or are they made in the US and marked? OEM seems to me to indicate russian origin and usa altered. How would you install them on a saiga without threads? pin weld? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2006 (edited) I make them in my shop here in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. They are bonded in place with Green #620 locktite or red will work too. With a thin bond line, they don't come off. I also weld them on if a customer requests it. Edited January 21, 2006 by TonyRumore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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