Sim_Player 1,939 Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 Looks like Turkey is open to the idea of us having FOB's there. Depleted uranium shells.... come get some... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rastamanila 313 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I came across this and I thought I would share it here: http://boeing.rollcall.com/topic-a/sponsored-post/10-thunderbolt-ii-gets-new-wings-ensures-sound-freedom-2035/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 The Wonderful Magical Mystical Eff Fuckin Thirty Five (blessed be it's name!) has turned out to be a flying turd that costs 5x more than it should and doesn't do any of the things we were promised nearly as well as the planes it replaces. We have flushed trillions down that toilet and it's only going to get worse. If we scrap the F16 and the F18 and the F15 and the A10 and all we have left is the F35 we'll be in deep shit. Whatever it costs to keep those reliable platforms flying is nothing compared to the cost of converting everything to the useless F35. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sobrenegade 795 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Darth, I agree with your observations. Small consolation, but with as much time as it spends on the ground at least the pilots don't have to worry about getting shot down. The A-10 has been one of my favorites next to the untimely departed Tomcat. It's old, slow and husky, kind of like me without the weaponry. Still hoping they'll develop an update program to keep it flying like the BUFF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 I just heard on Fox News that there is some plan use it against ISIS 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Why the camel fuckers fear the Warthog more than any other plane. And why a Warthog driver will never buy a drink in a bar with soldiers or Marines. For those that don't know the first ripping sound is the rounds hitting the target, the second ripping sound is the sound of the gun firing. Edited November 27, 2014 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 And now you why the piece of shit in chief wants to get rid of it, and anything else effective against the goatfukers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 More great news about the wonderful F35. Now $170,000,000,000 over budget, and still doesn't fly. Total cost now expected to top $1,500,000,000,000 over 10 years. And did I mention, it still doesn't fly. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/build-400-billion-f-35-103000651.html http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/07/31/How-DOD-s-15-Trillion-F-35-Broke-Air-Force 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 HOW in the wide, wide world of sports does ANY project get umpteen-freakin-TRILLION *OVER* the allotted budget?!?! That's just beyond any comprehension. Pull the plug on the project, the LACK of results and every single, solitary person even remotely involved with this dismally-colossal failure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 You know its a piece of shit when that kind of money cant fix it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Guys, this isn't being killed by the F35, it is being killed by low speed silent drones. We all know this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Aww, sad to see it go. It's sexy in an ugly, dangerous and unique sort of way. Plus the fantastic weaponry. RIP. We need more aircraft like this that you see and immediately go "that's an American plane". We have a penchant for making strange and ugly but functional aircraft (Apache, AWACS, P38 Lightning, V22 Osprey, B2 spirit, etc.). The F-ed up 35 is ugly without the charm and the cost is insanity squared times itself. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Read some article the other day (will try to find online link) that the Textron Scorpion is getting some interest as a potential A10 replacement if the F35 gets killed. Interesting plane.. Designed for CAS unlike the A10, which was really a tank killer pushed into the CAS role. Figures show the A10 costs 5x more per hour to operate than this guy.. I was amazed the hourly cost is around $15k on the A10 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textron_AirLand_Scorpion Edited March 16, 2015 by mancat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 While it's a nice, light, cheap plane, I don't see the Scorpion as survivable in a CAS environment as the A10, or having NEAR the armament. ex: the "instant LZ" the A10 is capable of. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 The article I read on the Scorpion states that it would rely more on guided-rocket pods and A-G missles, plus would have gun-pods available if needed. 6 hard points on the wings plus some inboard spots. Top speed around 550 kts, but also a long "loiter" time. I think it has potential in the role, but only some real-world testing would show if it can actually do the job. I doubt the military would do something so sensible as to approve a dozen of them and put them in action, and see what it can really do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 We need a new close air support plane - with a laser main weapon. Expect to see one in the next 4 or 5 years.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 We need a new close air support plane - with a laser main weapon. Expect to see one in the next 4 or 5 years.. Plasma would be better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 We have working military lasers NOW. Plasma is at least 20 years out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Lasers are only an improvement on fast targets, missiles, aircraft, and the like. For most things and really all of potential targets in a CS role, kinetic is just fine and really superior to beam weapons theoretical though they may be in that application. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Agreed. Kinetic is the most bang for the buck. Make something go really fast. Then hit something with it. Boom! No more problem. Simple, effective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Heh well said Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) ...can you imagine a 500 lb iron egg traveling at 0.9C hitting a planet? ( This is doable with current tech, but it'd be EXPENSIVE. Bankrupt a nation expensive.) eta: an ion drive could get the egg up to speed and aim it. Or, slingshot around a large orbital body to steal some momentum. Or a combo of both. ...or a rail gun in a vacuum (space) That's 6.0888e+18 ft/lbs of energy or 1.9731e+3 MEGAtons TNT in just ONE egg. Planet buster. Just like a really cheap NUKE from orbit. Thanks to R.A.H. for the idea. /Hjack off OMG! Ban calculators! We can destroy PLANETS with them! Edited March 19, 2015 by patriot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Do not piss us off .... yeah Mars Im lookin at you Ban eggs! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Electromagnetic rail guns or anti-material lasers require a shit load of (probably 3-phase) electrical current. Probably not gonna happen on a tiny jet. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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