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#1 Squishy

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:10 AM

I have a 14mmx1 adapter from CNC Warrior and a FSC30 comp from Primary Arms to install.  This is probably a no brainer for the majority here who have more experience than myself.

 

I understand that once I install the left hand threaded adapter and then the right hand threaded comp it will be turning against the adapter.  The adapter has no flat sides, if it did it would be a matter of holding it with a standard wrench while tightening/indexing the comp.

 

A friend mentioned using a "strap wrench" to tighten and hold the adapter.  I prefer not to scratch anything up using my Bubba skills.

 

How would you do this?  Any Loctite called for?


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 03:16 PM

SQUISHY,

   IS THE ADAPTER CONFIGURED SUCH THAT YOU MAY FILE OR MILL A COUPLE OF FLATS ON IT FOR A WRENCH?

 

   TO ASK WHAT MAY BE AN IGNUNT QUESTION, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST GO WITH THE FSC47, IT'S ALREADY 14X1LH?

 

   THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON MINE.

 

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:26 PM

   TO ASK WHAT MAY BE AN IGNUNT QUESTION, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST GO WITH THE FSC47, IT'S ALREADY 14X1LH?

 

Mainly because the FSC47 is billed as being for the AK47, or 7.62x39.  The FSC30 is roughly an inch longer and weighs 1 ounce more.  I figured it would be better for the 54r round.


Our right to keep and bear arms - personally - is the essential element of political liberty, without which we would stand as mere slaves of any current administration, as do most of the people in the world today. We treasure our right to be armed, not only as defense against tyrants, but also as defense against evil men acting alone. Our right to defend ourselves against felons by force of arms protects not only our liberty but also - and this is often overlooked - our dignity. Dignity is a word not often used in the Age  of the Wimp, for by definition a wimp has no dignity.  But dignity remains not only desirable but essential to persons of consequence.  This concept is rejected by the socialist, who feels that dignity resides solely in the state. But we Americans are not socialists (at least most of us are not) and we prize our unique status in world society.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 07:56 AM

How bout prepping (aka shims) the FSC30 and use that to tighten up the adapter.. it has a flat for tightening..

 

Thats how some plumbers tighten multiple fittings together anyway..

 

When you get the adapter snug the way you want then start clocking the FSC...


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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:46 AM

The FSC30 does come with a set of shims but I'm not getting how what you're talking about will work.  The FSC30 is right handed, the adapter is left handed so one will not tighten the other right?

 

What am I missing? (and it's entirely possible I'm missing something)


Our right to keep and bear arms - personally - is the essential element of political liberty, without which we would stand as mere slaves of any current administration, as do most of the people in the world today. We treasure our right to be armed, not only as defense against tyrants, but also as defense against evil men acting alone. Our right to defend ourselves against felons by force of arms protects not only our liberty but also - and this is often overlooked - our dignity. Dignity is a word not often used in the Age  of the Wimp, for by definition a wimp has no dignity.  But dignity remains not only desirable but essential to persons of consequence.  This concept is rejected by the socialist, who feels that dignity resides solely in the state. But we Americans are not socialists (at least most of us are not) and we prize our unique status in world society.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:00 AM

Sorry I forgot the LH and RH issue..

 

I would say LEATHER on the adapter maybe with gentle turns till snug.. if you don't intend on removing then RED loctite on the adapter may due the trick..

 

If your FSB had index pins they would lock in the adapter (like the std AK has on most FSB's)..

 

I would have emailed Dinzag and asked him before ordering the comp.. he may have been able to turn a smaller ID brake/comp to be 14LH  and then no adapter would have been needed.. he did it for me and my Saiga 308.. I sent him the brake/comp and he reworked it to thread on for me..

 

Sorry.. not to many adapting on these.. my 54R wasn't factory threaded so I just threaded mine to 5/8-24R from the gate myself.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:10 PM

No problem, thanks for the input.  I have a jam nut on the way from CNC Warrior to put behind the adapter.  So I'll red Loctite it as you've suggested and then tighten the nut and hopefully that will hold it when the FSC30 goes on.  The thought did cross my mind to have the barrel cut just enough to rethread as 5/8x24.

 

Thing is, if it doesn't work out, no harm.  If I can't get everything to stay put I can do the rethread thing on the barrel.


Our right to keep and bear arms - personally - is the essential element of political liberty, without which we would stand as mere slaves of any current administration, as do most of the people in the world today. We treasure our right to be armed, not only as defense against tyrants, but also as defense against evil men acting alone. Our right to defend ourselves against felons by force of arms protects not only our liberty but also - and this is often overlooked - our dignity. Dignity is a word not often used in the Age  of the Wimp, for by definition a wimp has no dignity.  But dignity remains not only desirable but essential to persons of consequence.  This concept is rejected by the socialist, who feels that dignity resides solely in the state. But we Americans are not socialists (at least most of us are not) and we prize our unique status in world society.

Jeff Cooper - Jeff Cooper's Commentaries Volume Nine, No. 7 34/73


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 08:16 PM

I vote the red loctite. If you ever need to take it off just warm it up with a heat gun, or mag dumps :D



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Posted 11 January 2014 - 09:47 PM

I vote the red loctite. If you ever need to take it off just warm it up with a heat gun, or mag dumps biggrin.png

 

I've meant to check to see just how hot barrels get but I always forget my infrared thermometer.  Anybody every measure the temps?


Our right to keep and bear arms - personally - is the essential element of political liberty, without which we would stand as mere slaves of any current administration, as do most of the people in the world today. We treasure our right to be armed, not only as defense against tyrants, but also as defense against evil men acting alone. Our right to defend ourselves against felons by force of arms protects not only our liberty but also - and this is often overlooked - our dignity. Dignity is a word not often used in the Age  of the Wimp, for by definition a wimp has no dignity.  But dignity remains not only desirable but essential to persons of consequence.  This concept is rejected by the socialist, who feels that dignity resides solely in the state. But we Americans are not socialists (at least most of us are not) and we prize our unique status in world society.

Jeff Cooper - Jeff Cooper's Commentaries Volume Nine, No. 7 34/73





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