sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Mine arrived today! It took five minutes with a file to fit it to the gun, as expected. Only had time to run one box through it. Not a single issue in 25 rounds. The mag follower design is fucking brilliant! Strong work! I'm so stoked to finally get my dirty dick beaters on these. Thanks so much for bringing them to market. You will be seeing a LARGE sum of money coming your way once you release these for real. My only request is that in the future you make a magwell version that operates the LRBHO. ;-) Thanks again!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnetmill 1 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 to be brutally honest, I just don't see what the hoopla is over a steel mag. different material, yeah. but it doesn't do anything else special, except for the novelty of it Unless you happen to drop it in the wonderfully cold weather we are having this winter, and your polymer mag cracks! OK, I will concede to that point. I have nothing to worry about my polymer mag cracking, because ain't no way I'm going to be out in the winter months shooting. when I shoot I like to have nice warm or cool weather. played enough of that shooting in the sub zero for over 20 years when I was in the Army, now I don't have to or want to for that matter. Some of us take our S12's out to play in the cold... LOL! I have had a plastic mag, butler creek, on a 10/22 crack from being fired 1,000's of time. What you need to consider is the cyclic life at normal conditions for plastic versus steel and then at low and high temperature. And of course not all plastics and steels are the same. I would like to hear more on this issue. Even though I think the price is high I will buy a few steel magazines. 5 to 8 rounds is good. If I want more I will go to the drum mags. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Like the izzy8 these mags hold 9 rounds when loaded on a open bolt. You will notice in my videos in this thread I am shooting 9 rounds. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81417-steel-s12-mags/page-10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnetmill 1 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 An AK magazine is substantially different in dimensions from a It is likely I can set up a guide for using 10 round stripper clips for rapid reload of my S 308 magazines. I have not tried it yet. How about making some stripper clip guides. . you don't need to ask him about coming out with one, there is already a .308 stripper clip loading tool and 10 round stripper clips already on the market, made by NcSTAR, patterned after the BETA CO. one. you will need to modify the base of the stripper clip loading tool to go over a AK style mag, I did that modification on a M16 BETA CO. stripper clip loading tool to work on my 5.56 AK mags An AK magazine is substantially different from the dimensions of a Saiga 308 magazine. The magazine in top view is longer. Perhaps that makes no difference. I have a much smaller adapter for using the SKS stripper clips to load AK mags. I have never tried it. The loader you picture is relatively large. I want something compact to fit into my war bag that goes with my rifle. But thanks very much for the suggestion and I will find the cited company and see what else they offer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just bumping this. We have them up again, anyone that wants some can buy them. I do caution that fitting is probably needed to match your shotgun. I'll try to get that reduced to just a tiny amount. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Just bumping this. We have them up again, anyone that wants some can buy them. I do caution that fitting is probably needed to match your shotgun. I'll try to get that reduced to just a tiny amount. What, if anything, have you concluded with the two types of followers? Is one proving to be better? All the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 It appears the type II follower seems to be the winner. Its the normal S-12 magazine style follower that does not grab the rim of the first round. So we are going to be shipping with that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I just placed an order, thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 12 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 So is the testing stage over? These will be the finished product? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I just realized they are located in FL too, darn it, no internet tax break, lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I just realized they are located in FL too, darn it, no internet tax break, lol. The guys in Michigan really get it bad. They pay sales tax and have to wait for their stuff to ship from FL. The company does some business in MI so I have to collect it even when nothing is being done up there. On a side note, every sale of goods is supposed to have the tax paid.. Even if the seller is out of state. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 25, 2014 Report Share Posted January 25, 2014 Here is a video from today's test. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 If you guys can bump the price down a bit, I'm onboard! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BB42 4 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Thank you for bringing these to the market. I've been following the development thread, pretty much from the beginning. I placed my order for one last night and can't wait to get it in my hands. For those of you whining about the price...I guess you can save your money for some of the MD double stack mags. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Will the followers push these out of the receiver unassisted like a factory five? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Will the followers push these out of the receiver unassisted like a factory five? Funny, my factory 5 does not do that.. So maybe. I'd imagine if you fit them a little loose they should fall out. A slight squeeze to the top sides may be helpful as well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I got my mags in today and all I can say is WOW! Fantastic fit and finish, built like a tank and the pictures and videos dont do them justice. Once I had them in hand I knew I was going to have to remove a lot of material from the rear lug to get it to lock up because I have a longer than average mag release lever. About twenty minutes of quality time with my favorite flat file and I had the first one locking up like a bank vault. I'll fit the other after work tonight and hope to get some rounds through them tomorrow. I have no doubt that they will run fine because the rounds are lined up perfectly with the chamber and hand cycling is flawless. All in all I believe these mags are worth every penny. Edited January 30, 2014 by Skitterfish Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I should have bought more! Thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Right now I'm happy I picked 1018 for the rear lug rather than 1040 or 1050. I figured there would be some fitting so we went with the most workable metal. I think 1050 bar stock goes up to 70hrc with the FNC coating. Which means the outer layer would have been 5-10% harder than your files. The current metal outer layer is about 5-10% softer than a file. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Do you project any more mods to be made to the mags or do you anticipate a full production run as they now stand? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 12 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Do you project any more mods to be made to the mags or do you anticipate a full production run as they now stand? What he said! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Csspec, I was very happy with the hardness off the steel. I had to remove almost a 1/8 of a inch off the bottom of the rear lug and although it was slow going and I was taking my time I expected that amount of fitment and would happily do it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Same here, but mine took much more. My fingers hurt the next day but it's better that way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We still have a good volume of magazines available, like 1/8th of the batch have sold. We made roughly a half production run, they are selling fairly well but I can see that people are waiting on reviews before spending the money on them. We do plan to run a small LRBHO compatible test batch to test with Cobras device, and to test function with the vepr-12. The thought is that if we run another production run the rear lug will be reduced a little to make filing less annoying. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We still have a good volume of magazines available, like 1/8th of the batch have sold. We made roughly a half production run, they are selling fairly well but I can see that people are waiting on reviews before spending the money on them. We do plan to run a small LRBHO compatible test batch to test with Cobras device, and to test function with the vepr-12. The thought is that if we run another production run the rear lug will be reduced a little to make filing less annoying. I'd like one to see how it works with mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We do plan to run a small LRBHO compatible test batch to test with Cobras device, and to test function with the vepr-12. Wait. What? So a magwell mag is in the works? :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We do plan to run a small LRBHO compatible test batch to test with Cobras device, and to test function with the vepr-12. Wait. What? So a magwell mag is in the works? :-) We intend to build a few to try them. However I'm still running off of incomplete data. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 What's your opinion on a steel mag meshing with the factory plastic magwell, over extended use? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We do plan to run a small LRBHO compatible test batch to test with Cobras device, and to test function with the vepr-12. Wait. What? So a magwell mag is in the works? :-) We intend to build a few to try them. However I'm still running off of incomplete data. Whatcha missing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
avatar 4 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) $63.00 a mag, nearly had a stroke Bought 4 . Hopefully the wife only hates me and doesn't decide to end me. Seriously though, them be some seriously awesome looking mags (bad grammer on purpose). How much longer than the 8 round factory mags are they? Edit: totally forgot to ask -- these can be loaded on a closed bolt without any fancy bolt work? Edited January 31, 2014 by avatar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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