MAAnew 162 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 SGM Tactical unveiled the 25 round Drum for the VEPR 12 at the Shot Show in Las Vegas, NV this week. What are your thoughts? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I like it, don't have a Vepr12. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 WOW! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) Questions... (1) Will this work in S-12's with the factory installed magwell? (2) Will this actuate the LRBHO? (3) Price? Edited: Is that silence I hear? SGM just robbed Grima of his thunder... Way to go boys! Edited January 16, 2014 by HighPlainsDrifter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Interesting development for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Edited: Is that silence I hear? SGM just robbed Grima of his thunder truth is Grima wasn't looking for any thunder, he wasn't looking at manufacturing or selling it, so SGM didn't "rob" anything from him. he just pointed out that it isn't all that hard to make a drum for the magwell shotguns. anybody with some patients and determination to make one can 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Wish they wouldn't have used the outer clips. Does it activate the LRBHO? Price? 3" shells? Stoked to see a magwell drum!!! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Edited: Is that silence I hear? SGM just robbed Grima of his thunder truth is Grima wasn't looking for any thunder, he wasn't looking at manufacturing or selling it, so SGM didn't "rob" anything from him. he just pointed out that it isn't all that hard to make a drum for the magwell shotguns. anybody with some patients and determination to make one can Yes, he pointed out that it isn't all that hard to make a drum. He also purposely failed to mention any details about how he did it. Strange how the ego works sometimes. Regardless, I really don't care. It was an off the cuff remark meant to be humorous. Laugh a little my friend... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 87 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Wish they wouldn't have used the outer clips. Does it activate the LRBHO? Price? 3" shells? Stoked to see a magwell drum!!! I agree about the clips. Very interested to see what they sell for. Will probably end up buying one anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ec4321 113 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Outer clips? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Outer clips?The back plate is held on with clips, much like a Promag drum. I would prefer screws instead. Also, what is the diameter of the SGM drum compared to a MD Arms drum? Edited January 17, 2014 by sunnybean 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yes, he pointed out that it isn't all that hard to make a drum. He also purposely failed to mention any details about how he did it. Strange how the ego works sometimes. that isn't "ego", speaking from experience I showed on another website how to go about making a drum for the PPS 43, using a PPSh41 drum, I spelled it out exactly how I went about doing it, I got flooded by people who asked question, that I had already mentioned in the instructions, so I got tired of it. I suspect that is what he didn't want happen to him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It's about 1" wider roughly. Retail is $99.95. I believe the Saiga magwell version will be next. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 when ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 There are not in testing phase yet so it would be several months at best. Kevin from SGM will give out more info when they are ready. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It's about 1" wider roughly. Retail is $99.95. I believe the Saiga magwell version will be next. Sweet. Thanks Greg. Any idea what they would change to make a Saiga magwell? The Saiga magwell mags work in a Vepr12 and visa versa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I don't see what the problem is with the clips. I would MUCH rather have that design than the other one with those obnoxious knobs all around the edge to hang up on pouches and make them larger O.D. They are unnecessary at best IMO. It isn't even the outer screws or clips that secure the back plate as much as it is the screw or clip in the center. Hell at least the Promag and the SGM use a screw instead of that PITA metal clip. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I don't see what the problem is with the clips. I would MUCH rather have that design than the other one with those obnoxious knobs all around the edge to hang up on pouches and make them larger O.D. They are unnecessary at best IMO. It isn't even the outer screws or clips that secure the back plate as much as it is the screw or clip in the center. Hell at least the Promag and the SGM use a screw instead of that PITA metal clip. Still haven't let it go, eh? ;-) j/k. Good points. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vette447 11 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Cool. I am excited to try one of these out in my VEPR-12. It is about time we have a drum mag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WUNDERWAFFEN 21 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I hope the feed lips & rear lug are metal or reinforced with metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 How good does it run? That's the first question. It can't just be "pretty good". It has to be "MD-20" good. Otherwise.......Meh. That's going to be one heavy ass ball sack hanging down low out of the magwell so I want to see some really good reviews first and then.........sure, I'll get one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I hope the feed lips & rear lug are metal or reinforced with metal. Doubtful, its an sgm piece. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CRZ 1 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Good news. Except for that whole "this is months away" thing. SHOT show is the devil sometimes. My impatient ass wants a new product within weeks, not months. That said, when they finally get it going, I'll be plunking down the cash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grima 15 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Not saying I had anything to do with it. But it worked.. When a company see something NEW that works. A gap in the market, a money spinner. They jump at it. Advertise it when they haven't even tested it? I hope your all happy now & there will be lots + lots for everyone. For me, no more snide bitchy remarks from spoon fed fuckers (HighPlainsDribbler) Steve............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKNinja 0 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I can not wait for this! if it functions as well as my MD arms drum did I will be all smiles!! http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-accessories/vepr-12-sgm-tactical-25-round-drum-detail.html?Itemid=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brickfield mfg 86 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Although I will probably get one if they work - just for the wow factor, I rarely use the MD Arms drum I have for my S12. They are fun to impress your friends and generally blow the hell out of things, but they are heavy, and force you to place your arm in an unnatural position. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) For me, no more snide bitchy remarks from spoon fed fuckers (HighPlainsDribbler) Steve............. See Matt, now that's funny! Edited: From the picture posted above, that's one huge drum. I'll buy it and try it out, but developing one for a smaller round count might be in order. Edited January 17, 2014 by HighPlainsDrifter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 There are not in testing phase yet so it would be several months at best. Kevin from SGM will give out more info when they are ready. Sniff,,,, sniff,,,, sniff. Is it just me or does this have a slight odor of double stack S 12 mags? Just sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So now that SGM is obviously stocking clear poly how about another batch of clear stick mags? My vote so for Vepr12 clear mags this time! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor's Hammer 33 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Too bookoo! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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