JaredC 23 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 A local forum I frequent is doing a group buy with these http://legionusainc.com/iz-433-saiga-12-030-type.html To be honest I haven't been paying a whole lot of attention to Saigas for the past year or two so I didn't even realize this was available. Can you guys tell me the pros and cons of this newer model? I would plan on converting it. Are there any surprises that I should know about before buying? I don't want to buy it and have a conversion in mind just to find out its not possible. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I love mine. For the normal retail price (not sure what you're paying) compared to a Vepr 12 I'd buy a V12. That said, the guys at Legion are great and I try to support them as much as I can. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Here's a start... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/92285-iz-433-owners-help-a-new-owner-out/ My preference is to keep this model all Russian or as close to original for 922r... 100 series poly folder w/ buttpad md arms molot style pistol grip or similar riveted S-12 trigger guard w/ extended plate railed gas block factory railed hand guard md arms Russian birdcage flash hider or similar Keep in mind this equation may need to be further tweaked to meet 922r. Weld up them left over holes and you have yourself a nice rig. Farm out the work and it might cost you 2 grand. Do it yourself and it will be considerably less. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Nothing I can think of - the front end is done for you, and at $800, holy shit that's a good price! I think the first batch that came into the country went for something like $1500. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think that model is a bargain at list price. Assume $150 to convert it with something like KVAR stock Now you have essentially a slightly lighter V12 with aluminum top rail, and every desirable feature for less cost. Quality is about the same Pros LRBHO, magwell, sights, rail, no gas settings. Cons: magwell mags only, so less choices more cost. No drums or DS or steel., No gas settings. It isn't self regulating (nor is the V12) it's more like drilling an extra port and leaving your gas block on a setting between 1 and 2 for everything. You'd have a couple axis pin holes if you don't fill them. So if those are features you want, it comes down to what kind of stock you want. If you want the factory folder on the $1200 V12, Treat that gun as $1350 after 922r and buy it. If you want any other stock, choose this one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaredC 23 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Great info. Thanks. I was just concerned that there was something different about them other than what I could see in the pictures or what the description was. I knew that with the magwell you couldn't run drums, which I never have so thats no biggie. I plan on buying a Vepr too eventually, but thats a whole separate thread. I signed for the Tromix build this year, and don't really want to send them my 22" barreled Saiga so maybe this one could be the one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 It's the perfect one to send Tony. He'll make it a beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) You have possibly considered this but putting it out there for discussion. The downside to you getting the 433 is magazine consolidation or in your case the lack of with your other build. I am currently in this situation and ready to sell the Iz-109 for this very reason. Edited January 19, 2014 by HighPlainsDrifter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barnetmill 1 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Magazines, magazines!?! It comes with One 4 round magwell magazine Is there a source of magazines for it? Will it work with the drum magazines by MD and others? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 The answer to your questions is already in this thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 hey thats me! any other okies on here that want that deal lemme know!! legion said about 10 for the price, not lookin like we there yet https://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?189913-10-folks-wanna-do-a-group-buy-on-Saiga-12-iz433 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Nothing I can think of - the front end is done for you, and at $800, holy shit that's a good price! I think the first batch that came into the country went for something like $1500. 700 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JaredC 23 Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 hey thats me! any other okies on here that want that deal lemme know!! legion said about 10 for the price, not lookin like we there yet https://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?189913-10-folks-wanna-do-a-group-buy-on-Saiga-12-iz433 Nice to see you over here......I thought I recognized your screen name from somewhere.............. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 likewise! thought your handle was familiar.... if other folks wanna get in on this, we are at 4 locally, but need 4 more, wouldnt be as good a deal to you, cause i would have to pay to ship off to you and you would have to pay ffl xfer on top of that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Have you guys put this deal together yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ordered one from Legion. Ty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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