HEAFHUNTER1976 0 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I have a bolt carrier from a "professionally converted s12 I've had for a few years. It has a vertical charging handle welded in place, and that's the problem for me. I'd like to have it cut off and have one more like the factory original welded on. I'd also like to get one of the heavy duty piston rods like the Tom Cole / Cadiz product installed. Where's a good place I could send just the carrier in to have just those x2 mods done, and what would be a fair price? Thanks for any help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 Cobra Customs forum vendor here and a genuine good guy, not to mention also a North Carolina ridgerunner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) I can understand you wanting to change out the charging handle. but, why on earth would you want to pay to have another gas piston installed? truthfully, there is nothing wrong with the factory piston, the after market S12 parts, is just a bunch of marketing hype of telling you need this or that to make your S12 run better. Edited February 13, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can understand you wanting to change out the charging handle. but, why on earth would you want to pay to have another gas piston installed? truthfully, there is nothing wrong with the factory piston, the after market S12 parts, is just a bunch of marketing hype of telling you need this or that to make your S12 run better. I thought the Tom Cole piston was made after having many fail. The heavy duty gas piston isn't about making a gun run better, it is about avoiding a catastrophic failure, eliminating a weakness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) yes i have seen a broken one. they snap right off maby you could trade some one for a stock one Edited February 13, 2014 by deadeye Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can understand you wanting to change out the charging handle. but, why on earth would you want to pay to have another gas piston installed? truthfully, there is nothing wrong with the factory piston, the after market S12 parts, is just a bunch of marketing hype of telling you need this or that to make your S12 run better. I thought the Tom Cole piston was made after having many fail. The heavy duty gas piston isn't about making a gun run better, it is about avoiding a catastrophic failure, eliminating a weakness. I've had mine for over 4 years now, and I shoot higher velocity 00 buck (1425fps) and slugs exclusively from a 13 inch barrel, and no indication of any piston failure. be interesting to know the ones that did fail, what else was done to them, ie. drilling out the gas port holes larger, or adding gas port holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HEAFHUNTER1976 0 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I wanted to add a little weight and slow cycling a hair, as well as lessen felt recoil for a smoother action. I've actually tried one that was on another s12 ( I used his carrier / my bolt ) at a local gun club on a family and friends day I was invited to. With my tac 47 plug my s12 cycled fine like usual, but it felt smoother and didn't seem to slam rearward to the receiver heel as hard. It may have been all in my mind but I want mine set up that way any how. I don't need anything re-profiled or polished, just the new piston installed, vertical charging handle cut and an original type welded on instead. I could even clean up the weld and file it to work with my action (to clear the receiver / top cover), I just need the welding / machine work to install the piston done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can understand you wanting to change out the charging handle. but, why on earth would you want to pay to have another gas piston installed? truthfully, there is nothing wrong with the factory piston, the after market S12 parts, is just a bunch of marketing hype of telling you need this or that to make your S12 run better. I thought the Tom Cole piston was made after having many fail. The heavy duty gas piston isn't about making a gun run better, it is about avoiding a catastrophic failure, eliminating a weakness. I've had mine for over 4 years now, and I shoot higher velocity 00 buck (1425fps) and slugs exclusively from a 13 inch barrel, and no indication of any piston failure. be interesting to know the ones that did fail, what else was done to them, ie. drilling out the gas port holes larger, or adding gas port holes. I think sometimes they just fail, yours could fail tomorrow or it could last a lifetime, nobody really knows. One thing that has never happened is a Tom Cole piston breaking. I wanted to add a little weight and slow cycling a hair, as well as lessen felt recoil for a smoother action. I've actually tried one that was on another s12 ( I used his carrier / my bolt ) at a local gun club on a family and friends day I was invited to. With my tac 47 plug my s12 cycled fine like usual, but it felt smoother and didn't seem to slam rearward to the receiver heel as hard. It may have been all in my mind but I want mine set up that way any how. I don't need anything re-profiled or polished, just the new piston installed, vertical charging handle cut and an original type welded on instead. I could even clean up the weld and file it to work with my action (to clear the receiver / top cover), I just need the welding / machine work to install the piston done. Check with Cobra at Cobra's Customs, I know he can do the piston install and I think he can do the carrier work as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I can understand you wanting to change out the charging handle. but, why on earth would you want to pay to have another gas piston installed? truthfully, there is nothing wrong with the factory piston, the after market S12 parts, is just a bunch of marketing hype of telling you need this or that to make your S12 run better. I thought the Tom Cole piston was made after having many fail. The heavy duty gas piston isn't about making a gun run better, it is about avoiding a catastrophic failure, eliminating a weakness. This was my understanding also. The wobble in the factory one could cause it to crack at the mounting point. Maybe cobra could chime in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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