cav01c14 4 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Has anyone seen anything like this. Supposedly was a genuine russian 10rd mag Blew right in half the 1st round through it. Never had an issue before and have used it quite a few times. Question now is where can I find another ten rd mag before more geese start showing up. No plugs no limits was going to be sweet to mow them down but with only 5 rounds now Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't recall any "factory 10 round mags"????? That thing doesn't look like a factory mag, maybe two 5 rounders super glued together??????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Molot is selling factory 10 round V12 mags made by taking a factory 8 and hot welding it to a piece of a factory 2. It wouldn't surprise me if something similar was done for the S20. However, any half way respectible plastic weld is about as strong as the rest of the plastic. That mag is a very clean cut which would back up the glue theory. If it were mine and I couldn't exchange it, I would sand all the surfaces, clean it with alcohol, back bevel the edges and carefully plastic weld with a soldering iron on low temp. I might also cut 3 strips of plastic from the factory throw away stock and weld them on vertically to reinforce the mag. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't recall any "factory 10 round mags"? After searching some threads I found this... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/72858-factory-275-high-capacity-magazine-identification/?p=710290 Looks legit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I don't recall any "factory 10 round mags"? After searching some threads I found this... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/72858-factory-275-high-capacity-magazine-identification/?p=710290 Looks legit. As far as I know it was a legit mag paid a nice chunk of change. Worked fine when I had it out hunting pheasants this fall, shot a bunch of trap as well. Really have no idea how it happened. Pulled the trigger bang and everything let loose. I just want to find some more tens if possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
schultze13 354 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I had several 10rd factory S-20 mags like that at one time it is a legit mag and I have never had anything like that happen to any of the ones I had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 One word Csspecs! I'd like to see one of those steel mags do that shit. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 One word Csspecs! I'd like to see one of those steel mags do that shit. Any word on the CSS mags I talked to Michael at css and he said they are a good mag but better to load on an open bolt. That's why I loved this russian ten rd as it was easy to load. . $55 is a lot of money for a mag but it's not like I wouldn't dish out the money for something that works. Plus side is if somehow the metal mag breaks like that while firing I'm probably dead lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE20GA 11 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Csspecs mags are the best $55 dollars I ever spent on my S20 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think gunfun nailed it. that is not how the part would have been molded and sonic welded, would be left and right panels not 1/2 top and bottom. somebody did a good job gluing a frankenmag but over time glue fails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think gunfun nailed it. that is not how the part would have been molded and sonic welded, would be left and right panels not 1/2 top and bottom. somebody did a good job gluing a frankenmag but over time glue fails. I stand by post #2 and post #7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sunnybean 939 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think gunfun nailed it. that is not how the part would have been molded and sonic welded, would be left and right panels not 1/2 top and bottom. somebody did a good job gluing a frankenmag but over time glue fails. I'm going with this as it is coming from a guy that probably knows more about plastic/polymer mags than anyone else on this forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 seems like there are 10 rounders on rusmilitary, so I couldn't go along with post 2 but I'd go with #7 and call Csspecs to get a new one in steel before I started converting US dollars to UK pounds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Obviously photoshopped. Russian mags cannot fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Well I superglued it back together and took it blackout to try. It handled 2 fully loaded bumpski mag dumps and is still in one piece. Think I will wrap it some duct tape just to be on the safe side. Doesn't look pretty but it works. On the plus side picked up a cssmetal mag and fitted it last night. Looks really good with the metal bumpski hope it feeds as well as my russian mag Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE20GA 11 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hey , where did you get that forarm rail ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Hey , where did you get that forarm rail ? It's from Carolina shooter supply. Most the parts I ordered from them. They make the forearm in house I believe. The only issue I had with mine was it was made for a 12 gauge. Really easy fix I took a paint stick and a piece of plastic superglued together and then glued to the forearm where it slides into the receiver. Tightened it back up and haven't had a problem since. Get in touch with CSS I even think they have a top rail to make it a quad rail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE20GA 11 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ahhh ...........too good to be true it seems; I was thrilled to see that forearm on a 20 ga - until you said it was for a 12 ga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ahhh ...........too good to be true it seems; I was thrilled to see that forearm on a 20 ga - until you said it was for a 12 ga. The only difference is where it slides into the receiver. I bet if you talk really nice to CSS they may even be able to get you the right block that fits the 20. I know mine on here has two small screws holding the piece on. It's just the thicker barrel of the 12 takes up more room. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE20GA 11 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I would sure sugar coat my words to them ........... I find it dispicible that accessories for the Saiga 20 are almost non-existant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MIKE20GA 11 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 CSS wrote me back and had nothing specific for the 20 ga........they said most use the 12 ga one and a spacer ....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAAnew 162 Posted May 15, 2014 Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 Ahhh ...........too good to be true it seems; I was thrilled to see that forearm on a 20 ga - until you said it was for a 12 ga. The only difference is where it slides into the receiver. I bet if you talk really nice to CSS they may even be able to get you the right block that fits the 20. I know mine on here has two small screws holding the piece on. It's just the thicker barrel of the 12 takes up more room. is difficult to find 20 ga rounds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2014 What do you mean? Is difficult to find 20 ga rounds? Walmart always seems to have them and my local gun shop usually has pretty good deals on bulk 20. If you meant finding a hand guard for a 20 well that's also a pain. But it's just the space that slides into the front of the receiver that is different. The screw is in the same place for both the 12 and 20 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wagnikov 186 Posted May 16, 2014 Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 What do you mean? Is difficult to find 20 ga rounds? Walmart always seems to have them and my local gun shop usually has pretty good deals on bulk 20. If you meant finding a hand guard for a 20 well that's also a pain. But it's just the space that slides into the front of the receiver that is different. The screw is in the same place for both the 12 and 20 +1I find bulk 20ga is actually easier to find at walmart. Used to always piss me off. Now that I own a s20 is like a secret invisible cache. And yes overall length is identical. The s12 just has a bigger trunion thus less space between bottom and receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 Superglued the mag back together with some loctite super glue and wrapped it with a piece of gorilla duct tape. Two boxes of full auto and it's still holding strong. I must say the CSS mag is nice just wish it was easier to load as you can't do it on a closed bolt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TxAgSaiga1979 16 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I will stand by the CSSPECS steel 20 ga mags. I just wish they chambered 3". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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