Jump to content

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 212
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Lets lighten this up...  

I could give a shit one way or the other about Bundy.  I don't see him as either hero or villian.  I do give him credit for standing up against tyranny, but he also had selfish motives for doing so.

Once all positions have been clearly stated all that remains is repeating ourselves and name calling.

Posted Images

The Bible is full of lies and misconseptions and was written by a governing authority.

If you want to bring religion into a context for assertion then it is you who are truly ignorant

and a contradiction to yourself and all you think is right.

Shotty

I pray that your eyes will be opened one day.  As it is now the phrase; "pearls before swine" rings true.  Only one thing that I can agree with you on is the fact that the Bible was written by a governing authority and that one day all knees shall bow before that authority.  I am sorry that you are so ignorant.

 

People, I am trying to stay out of the fray since I feel my input is no longer needed.  But when people make false accusations I feel it is my responsibility to correct them.  Please carry on whining about the over bearing government...  Would it not be better to start a thread on what we can do to curtail it's power?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't be sorry for me as my life has been great with no regrets, and I have never needed to use religion as a scapegoat for happiness.

Believe what you want to believe just don't push your beliefs on to others. Peace-

Faith does not enhance critical thinking abilities or make anyone more grounded in reality.  it does however, allow circular reasoning to reign, thus reinforcing ones ability to connect unrelated facts to his own faith based ideals.  Proselytizers are not wise, they simply bend ideas to fit their own viewpoint, in order to convince others.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

The Bible is full of lies and misconseptions and was written by a governing authority.

If you want to bring religion into a context for assertion then it is you who are truly ignorant

and a contradiction to yourself and all you think is right.

I am sorry that you are so ignorant.

 

 

 

Whoa there cowboy.  Your feeling the need to interject the bible verses has somehow gotten past the mods and IMO has been a great addition to this great thread.  But now you (and I) will probably get this thread damned to the basement.

 

That said...  Messiah's views do NOT make him ignorant.  If you choose to believe that there is some dude in the sky making me type this, making you read this, making the ten thousand cars crash right at this moment in time, then fine.  Not all of us believe that.  Religion is people's way of dealing with their fear of death.  They need to believe that this is not a one way trip that when over, it's over.  The thought of Heaven makes people feel better.

 

Feel free to call me names.  I don't care, nor do I need your prayers.  When I die, the worms will eat me.  The end...

Edited by Big John!
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Whoa there cowboy.  Your feeling the need to interject the bible verses has somehow gotten past the mods and IMO has been a great addition to this great thread.  But now you (and I) will probably get this thread damned to the basement.

 

That said...  Messiah's views do NOT make him ignorant.  If you choose to believe that there is some dude in the sky making me type this, making you read this, making the ten thousand cars crash right at this moment in time, then fine.  Not all of us believe that.  Religion is people's way of dealing with their fear of death.  They need to believe that this is not a one way trip that when over, it's over.  The thought of Heaven makes people feel better.

 

Feel free to call me names.  I don't care, nor do I need your prayers.  When I die, the worms will eat me.  The end...

 

BJ

No name calling here, just stating facts as I see them just as Shotty did (notice the word "ignorant" used in his message).  Being ignorant is to ignore the obvious.  Shotty feels I ignore the obvious fact that there is no "dude in the sky" and I feel that Shotty is ignorant of the fact that there is indeed God.  One of us is wrong but Shotty and yourself are betting on black -- either the blackness of nothingness or the blackness of being apart from God forever.  I do find that sad and will indeed pray for both of your ignorance to be lifted one day.

 

Since we are talking, here are couple things from my random stream of consciousness this morning;  Christians do not think that God has us all on puppet strings, we all have free will to believe or disbelieve, do good or do evil that is why things like the holocaust or the Inquisition occurred.  That leads me to another thing -- why did not God step in and stop such evil?  I have no clue, I can't begin to know the mind of God, it is way above any paygrade I could think of.  That is a question I will ask when I see Him.

 

I was agnostic till age 26.  Sometimes I can see the beauty in being able to see nothing but worms and dirt and nothingness after life.  We have nothing to work for, nothing to try to strive for and owe nothing to nobody but ourselves.  We can be our own Gods and create our own morality without fear.  Our lives is all there is.  Sounds good while young with a long horizon in front of us.  But death comes to us all and as we age the thought of it will linger longer.  Is this really all there is?  Am I only here one second and gone the next? In terms of eternity do I really mean nothing?

 

Christians do not see Heaven as a reward.  There is no reward in Christianity only a pardon.  Every person on earth is offered this pardon no matter who or where they are it is only up to each to freely accept it.  When I was an agnostic I thought that Christianity was a crutch.  Now that I am a Christian I readily admit that I can not walk straight without it so yes it is a crutch for me. 

 

Finally, why do you think Bible verses are so subversive that they need to "somehow gotten past the mods"?  Funny that all sorts of filth and semi porn can flourish here but Bible verses -- Whooah!!!  Seems to be typical of the New Amerika.  Again, sad.

Edited by Odd Man Out
Link to post
Share on other sites

Interesting considering the source;

 

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/04/23/3429758/bundy-militia/

 

 

As for the other if you wish to practice whatever you choose on the matter of spirituality then I suggest siding with liberty, works for everyone. But yall keep this up, it is everything our opponents could wish.

Look to the common ground, the right to make up ones own mind without a government stooge or thug making it up for you.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

getting back to following this issue and stop bantering , go bitch back and forth elsewhere.

 

DIVISION is why we fail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I am interested in how this progresses, at this point I could care less about peoples beliefs.

 

 

A slightly irritated old JIM

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Bundy failed to: Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's

he hasn't paid for the use of the land

if this was the IRS he'd be in jail already guess the BLM doesn't carry the same weight

 

the government did the most fucked up operation seen in a while trying to handle this and now it's a stand off but it's not over. the government can't let him win that could start a trend and the next time it could be taxes some group refuses to pay. 

 

I'll believe people are ready to take up arms when they stop paying taxes but until then this pointing of guns and shit is just a bad way to go to jail. anyone figure the guy shown in the photo with his rifle feels safe from the government right now?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nope.  But I bet he doesn't feel like a slave either.

 

There are those who do and those who talk.  Those who talk often talk about how the doers are doing it wrong.

Edited by Darth Saigus
Link to post
Share on other sites

They have a political section here so they need a religion section as well. Then I can avoid that like I avoid the 2 guys in white

shirts and ties with black briefcases who like to bother me with their nonsense when I'm out working in the yard.

They never seem to take "not interested" for an answer but they do understand  a good soaking from the garden hose means no.021.gif

Edited by SHOTGUN MESSIAH
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

Nope.  But I bet he doesn't feel like a slave either.

 

There are those who do and those who talk.  Those who talk often talk about how the doers are doing it wrong.

Yep. Actions speak louder than words. Its peoples lack of action that allows tyranny to reign.
Link to post
Share on other sites

You all have given me a good laugh, oh yeah let's ban all than stupid useless Christianity crap, leave it where it belongs...

 

All you brainiacs have a clue where our founding fathers got their principles from to create the document that is the foundation of our country???

 

Priceless.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Well that’s where a lot of the differences lie with this thread, be it viewed by Bible or bottle rockets.

Some think he has the right to do it his way based on the history of the land and his family

Some think he owes the government money for the use of these public lands

Most agree the government totally screwed up trying to handle it

And there is more than a little reason to suspect Harry Reid and his son have a vested interest in trying to get the land away from Bundy so they can sell it to the Chinese

Some believe there has been enough done wrong by the government to warrant violent actions by the citizens

Some think the government while stupid is still the best bet when compared to most of the world and aren’t ready to wave guns on camera.

I know what I think and why and have a pretty good understanding of what some others here think but maybe not why. So if we don’t all see it the same oh fucking well I’ve tried to make a case and I’ve got a right to my thinking and so do you.

But just to be clear if you disagree with me you’re wrong. haha.gif 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Chatbox

    Load More
    You don't have permission to chat.
×
×
  • Create New...