pjj342 632 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 ol' evil gets a pass for doing stupid things with a firearm simply because he is a member here. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jeremiahisnaked 64 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 AAAAAAAND there went any desire to give Mike or Lone Star Arms any money. He makes some pretty Saigas, but in the industry we call that a bitch move. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) AAAAAAAND there went any desire to give Mike or Lone Star Arms any money. He makes some pretty Saigas, but in the industry we call that a bitch move. That makes two of us. Not a very wise or professional business move if you ask me. Edited May 11, 2014 by Tundra1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MT Predator 2,294 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 I'm not going to chastise anyone for their poor handling skills or general carelessness if they are doing so in private, but, I wouldn't be too happy to witness it on a public range with others around, down range checking targets, etc. We'd have words and I assure you, the reckless individual would be removed from the range. As far as Mike is concerned, that was a dick move for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 (edited) Any discussion of firearms safety on a forum quickly turns into a dick waving contest. Of course some are always quicker to whip it out than others. EDIT: And no I don't think it's a good idea to change a muzzle attachment on a loaded firearm. Edited May 12, 2014 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 ol' evil gets a pass for doing stupid things with a firearm simply because he is a member here. Thats the way it works here , dont ya know Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 12, 2014 Report Share Posted May 12, 2014 Its amazing isnt it. Oh not that he did it, his head after all, but that he recorded it and posted it. Given that all I do is unlock, clear, and put my finger in the chamber to verify if possible that its now a club and then look down the barrel... Still gives me a touch of the willies though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mancat 2,368 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I will always remember the story of the idiot at the range that asked me to help with his rusted up '74, I kicked the carrier to get it to break free, and out popped a live round. I should've been madder about it, but at the moment I was just like "oh." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted May 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I will always remember the story of the idiot at the range that asked me to help with his rusted up '74, I kicked the carrier to get it to break free, and out popped a live round. I should've been madder about it, but at the moment I was just like "oh." treat every gun as it is loaded and no problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 How safe is anything, really? All a safety is, is a fail safe. Ive seen several ND's in the service. No gun is safe in the wrong hands. Ive been shot before and an honestly say that none of us are safe entirely. If he felt safe at the time, then why complain? Who's to say whats right and wrong? Whats safe for me in my life might not be for you. Just sayin. You don't really mean that when it comes to gun safety do you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Its amazing isnt it. Oh not that he did it, his head after all, but that he recorded it and posted it. Given that all I do is unlock, clear, and put my finger in the chamber to verify if possible that its now a club and then look down the barrel... Still gives me a touch of the willies though. A proper safety check includes being absolutely certain that there is no obstruction in the bore. This is done two ways. Visually or with a rod. A rod is not always handy.... say, in the field while hunting, hiking, fishing, etc. I do safety inspections of weapons every day at work. One day I couldn't see daylight through the bore because a mud wasp had plugged it over night. It's a very good thing I did the safety check and didn't need to use the rifle without doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 Its amazing isnt it. Oh not that he did it, his head after all, but that he recorded it and posted it. Given that all I do is unlock, clear, and put my finger in the chamber to verify if possible that its now a club and then look down the barrel... Still gives me a touch of the willies though. A proper safety check includes being absolutely certain that there is no obstruction in the bore. This is done two ways. Visually or with a rod. A rod is not always handy.... say, in the field while hunting, hiking, fishing, etc. I do safety inspections of weapons every day at work. One day I couldn't see daylight through the bore because a mud wasp had plugged it over night. It's a very good thing I did the safety check and didn't need to use the rifle without doing it. As well one should. The thing is, in my case at least, there should always remain a healthy respect for those that have gone on before us as warnings, may they rest in peace. Some mental discomfort I guess is wise given it keeps us honest and breathing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpnrm96 70 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 I only have one question....how many of the self appointed and certified safety experts live in a glass house. "live in a glass house, then be the first to cast a stone". Looks to me like it was a slow news day on Odumbo and Smellery. lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Oh look, another whirling penis. . . Edited May 13, 2014 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 How safe is anything, really? All a safety is, is a fail safe. Ive seen several ND's in the service. No gun is safe in the wrong hands. Ive been shot before and an honestly say that none of us are safe entirely. If he felt safe at the time, then why complain? Who's to say whats right and wrong? Whats safe for me in my life might not be for you. Just sayin. You don't really mean that when it comes to gun safety do you? Of course not. Shit gets blown out of proportion. I have a trust for my weapons. My point is that if he felt safe doing what he did, then so be it. I wont rag his ass for it, unlike others. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted May 13, 2014 Report Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Just was not his time. I am more for people doing what they want as long as bystanders do not pay the price. You want to drive at 100 mph with no seat belt, go ahead. Ride a cycle with no helmet, drink 2 gallons of whiskey by all means do it. Thinning the herd is not a bad thing, mother nature does it all the time to the other animals on the rock. Why should we be any different? Evl ya did what ya did, so what? Your still here. If it went the wrong way, you'd be gone and all this would still be coming at ya. Was a nice damn day today, the fire roses bloomed for the first time. Just saying............. Edited May 14, 2014 by Dad2142Dad 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redrum4u 125 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) How often is that loaded gun under your mattress or bed pointing at you? Edited May 14, 2014 by Redrum4u Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 I have watched this thread since the start, some of yall need to chill. So what if he looked down the barrel, done it my self, not a big deal. Safety is up to the one looking, if it is my firearm it is safe. Hand me yours, it will be safe before and when I look. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 <-------It might look something like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Tool you beat me to it. I was going to post a pic looking into a loaded revolver How often is that loaded gun under your mattress or bed pointing at you? you must sleep with your head hanging off if a gun under yout mattress points at you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) How often is that loaded gun under your mattress or bed pointing at you? maybe you keep a loaded gun under your mattress, and maybe money in the mattress, but I certainly don't. I keep mine in the drawer of the night stand, like most normal people would. and before you ask the question on the position of it, which I'm sure that will come up. I put the pistol in the draw with the grip toward me, so it will be easier to grab the pistol Edited May 14, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Omg so much drama over nothing! If he felt at danger I'm sure he wouldn't have done it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky63 46 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 OK NEXT,obama let murderers rapist dopers and general criminals free in America [not a peep] what the hell!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 OK NEXT,obama let murderers rapist dopers and general criminals free in America [not a peep] what the hell!!!!! Link? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 OK NEXT,obama let murderers rapist dopers and general criminals free in America [not a peep] what the hell!!!!! Link? http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/30/REPORT-Obama-Admin-Released-Tens-Of-Thousands-Of-Illegal-Immigrant-Criminals http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/30/border-agents-catch-and-release-most-illegal-immig/?page=all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redrum4u 125 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Tool you beat me to it. I was going to post a pic looking into a loaded revolver How often is that loaded gun under your mattress or bed pointing at you? you must sleep with your head hanging off if a gun under yout mattress points at you.Well when I walk down the basement stairs ( behind my bedroom) it is technically pointed at me. Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Yeah it's not a bid deal if you handle a loaded firearm like an idiot.Man Shoots Nephew In The Head While Showing Off Laser.http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/05/nj-man-shoots-11-year-old-nephew-dead-while-demonstrating-laser-sight-on-his-forehead/ . Edited May 14, 2014 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Never give a pass on bad gun handeling, or accept excuses. Point out errors to people, and teach them safety, dont be a jerk about it...but stress just how important it is. Lives are at real risk. There are people that will not learn, dont be around them with a firearm. Gun safety is pretty black and white. This was not an extreme situation, but I would remove the mag, clear the firearm and lock the bolt back before I worked in front of the muzzle. The cardinal rule is ...Never point the muzzle at anything you are not willing to kill or destroy. Im pretty sure this guy has had all the correction he needed (and more) Its the people that defended the error that I would worry about. Jim 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Safety was driven into my mind not by firearms but by working offshore on the oil and gas platforms. The largest problem is always the comfort factor one can acquire over time when dealing with dangerous machines, comfort is careless. So hang on to that slight sense of discomfort and danger, you live longer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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