Boyd Crowder 16 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I was at a gun show recently and I traded an assortment of used brass I had collected on my last few trips to the range for 100 rounds of surplus 7.62x51. When I got home I loaded the mag for my S308 and tried to chamber a round only to find that the round wouldn't fully chamber, it got stuck right before the extraction lip. Here are some pics, the stamp on the case says 7.62-C, Is this a different caliber all together? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Maybe 7.62 x 54? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) What's the overall length and head diameter? Edited June 3, 2014 by Darth Saigus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cscharlie 107 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 A pic of the cartridge from the side might help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I found the following from a web search, this is from another forum so I won't post the link; I believe Spain made only 7.62 CETME ammunition until 1964. I believe 1964 would be the first year that Spain produced 7.62 NATO so I suspect 1962 Santa Barbara 7.62 would be 7.62 CETME ammunition and not 7.62 NATO. This may be why it is marked "7.62-c." Spain attempted to make 7.62 NATO ammunition in 1961 but had problems with the cases and didn't get everything sorted out until 1964. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyd Crowder 16 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yea that sounds about right, it says cetme on the box but no where does it say NATO, just 7.62mm which I thought to mean 7.62x51. I told the guy I wanted .308 and he gave me this, sneaky son of a bitch. It was the last hour of the last day of show so he knew he could fuck me because he knew he would be gone by the time I figured it out. My own fault I suppose, should have been more diligent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yea that sounds about right, it says cetme on the box but no where does it say NATO, just 7.62mm which I thought to mean 7.62x51. I told the guy I wanted .308 and he gave me this, sneaky son of a bitch. It was the last hour of the last day of show so he knew he could fuck me because he knew he would be gone by the time I figured it out. My own fault I suppose, should have been more diligent. Yeah.....I quit going to shows several years ago, sorry that happened to you. I have cultivated a relationship with the folks at a small local shop where I live, now I can get just about anything I want, and the prices aint bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Sorry you got hosed, but this seems like a perfect opportunity to buy a new gun! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boyd Crowder 16 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Haha I like the way you think! But I've got my next project all lined out just waiting for funds and it isn't going to be in 7.62 cetme.... If anyone has any use for these rounds hit me up and they're yours, just pay the shipping. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) I did just snoop Gun Broker a bit and it seems the very few 7.62-C items are pretty expensive. Looks like this guy doesn't know the difference between NATO and C either. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=420169182 I accidentally bought a 100 pack of 20ga instead of 12ga once because I was in a hurry and it was mixed in with the 12ga... I'm planning on buying a $99 single shot 20ga to keep in the shed or garage. Turning my own frown upside down! Another gun is almost never the wrong answer and I get to make jokes about how my shotgun is less scary than Biden's "high capacity" model... Edited June 3, 2014 by Maxwelhse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 ^^^^^i did the same thing. Years ago dicks had a sale and somehow I ended up with about 300 rounds of 20 gauge. Told the wife I can't return it and eventually I'll buy a shotgun just to shot it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termite 463 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hey, I'm with the Coffee Man, put it on GB and flip it to make more money, just be sure to write ORD on the box when you ship it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 probably much more rare than 762x51 charge an outlandish amount Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big John! 2,062 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 Hey, I'm with the Coffee Man, put it on GB and flip it to make more money, just be sure to write ORD on the box when you ship it. ORM-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) I thought "SB" might have stood for "Sellier & Bellot", but it's actually "Santa Barbara" ammo for Fusil de Asalto CETME. According to this, there was a 7.9mm CETME, but that was sort of superceded by what would become 7.62 NATO. So, my guess is that it is 7.62x51mm. Edited June 4, 2014 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 He says it won't chamber I'm a 762x51 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted June 4, 2014 Report Share Posted June 4, 2014 I must have skipped right over that. Mysterious stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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