goldenpony 61 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I want to mount a B5 Systems Sopmod stock on my S12. I know I need an adapter which I am going to order from Rifle Dynamics. I know I will need a Mil Spec tube. What else do I need? I have seen references to a castle nut and some sort of "plate". What are these and where do I get them? Any recommendations for the buffer tube? I don't want any recoil reducing stuff. Just a good sturdy tactical stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Carolina Shooters Supply has everything you need for this Modification, http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/category_s/1942.htm. I purchased the same parts for my S-308 from them, they're high speed man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) they lock the tube in a vertical position http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=17097 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/718153/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-lock-ring-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding http://www.midwayusa.com/product/645904/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-end-plate-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding and you should shop the S 12 venders on this site. These links are for the pictures Edited June 13, 2014 by utahhandyman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 they lock the tube in a vertical position http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=17097 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/718153/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-lock-ring-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding http://www.midwayusa.com/product/645904/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-end-plate-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding and you should shop the S 12 venders on this site. These links are for the pictures I didn't see anything there that would work with an AK style receiver. CSS parts are specially made for adapting to the the Saiga/AK receiver. Your Saiga is NOT an AR15, thus the AR15 parts DO NOT BOLT ON. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 they lock the tube in a vertical position http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=17097 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/718153/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-lock-ring-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding http://www.midwayusa.com/product/645904/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-end-plate-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding and you should shop the S 12 venders on this site. These links are for the pictures I didn't see anything there that would work with an AK style receiver. CSS parts are specially made for adapting to the the Saiga/AK receiver. Your Saiga is NOT an AR15, thus the AR15 parts DO NOT BOLT ON. I spoke with a customer service person at Rifle Dynamics. Their adapter used to not work on an S12 but they have redesigned it and he said now it will work fine on the Saiga. I assume that was what you were referring to. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 they lock the tube in a vertical position http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=24&newcategorydimensionid=17097 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/718153/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-lock-ring-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding http://www.midwayusa.com/product/645904/dpms-receiver-extension-buffer-tube-end-plate-ar-15-lr-308-carbine?cm_vc=ProductFinding and you should shop the S 12 venders on this site. These links are for the pictures I didn't see anything there that would work with an AK style receiver. CSS parts are specially made for adapting to the the Saiga/AK receiver. Your Saiga is NOT an AR15, thus the AR15 parts DO NOT BOLT ON. I spoke with a customer service person at Rifle Dynamics. Their adapter used to not work on an S12 but they have redesigned it and he said now it will work fine on the Saiga. I assume that was what you were referring to. I only buy parts for my Saiga's from forum business members, I know the parts will fit my guns. as they have been tried and tested already. But please feel free to spend your money wherever you wish, it is your money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 you need those parts for their adapter http://rifledynamics.com/collections/ak-accessories/products/ak-to-m-4-stock-adapter-by-rifle-dynamics Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Cool. CSS has the buffer tube and castle nut I'll need. Do I still need that plate thing? I still like the B5 Systems stock and RD adapter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 yes and some have a sling swivel or connector of some sort. It acts like a washer and is what keeps it from rotating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 Leme try this once more, you will need to go to CSS website to view this part, as their images are copyrighted, http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/css-ak-tube.htm. This buffer tube and receiver adaptor is all one piece, thus there is no "Castle Nut" needed. another advantage of this item is that you don't have to cut the "TANG" which is a retainer for the factory stock. They make this item in both Mil-spec and commercial size, your choice. I actually have the commercial size on my S-308 with the Magpul ACS stock. This combination is a good match for me and this rifle, as the cheek weld is solid and comfortable for me. I must say that I do like the concept of the Rifle Dynamics adaptor, and I think there is a thread around here somewhere that folks were discussing it. I seem to recall someone talking about the ring breaking under pressure, but I could be wrong about that. As none of these parts are cheap, you should do plenty of research before dropping your cash. Good luck with whichever choice you make 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted June 14, 2014 Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I can also vouch for the quality of the adaptor above from CSS. They are a quality piece and installed fit very well. I have helped a couple of friends build Saigas with these, and I was impressed. Just want to give you options. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2014 I can also vouch for the quality of the adaptor above from CSS. They are a quality piece and installed fit very well. I have helped a couple of friends build Saigas with these, and I was impressed. Just want to give you options. I looked at the one piece part from CSS and they are very clever. I didn't realize that part combined the adapter and the tube. I am still sold on the adapter from RD. I am still mulling it over which way I will go. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lewie212 37 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Check out the Canis adapter as well. http://www.canisdesigngroup.com/ak-to-m4-fixed-stock-adapter.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 I already have the Rifle Dynamics adapter. Just waiting on the stock and associated parts from Bravo Company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Installed RD adapter. Looks and fits great. Can't wait to get the stock, which should be here in a day or 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted June 22, 2014 Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 Pics please I checked out the canis site and they have this. Makes me want a 223 AK http://www.canisdesigngroup.com/m4-conversion-for-ak.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted June 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2014 I'll try to include a pic when she's done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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