thefitter 5 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Molot is only making aluminum GK-01 now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I have never seen a steel one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefitter 5 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I thought the first Russian GK-01 was all steel, and the CSS copy was the first aluminum ones? Don't ask me why I thought this, I have the memory of a bare knuckle fighter with alzheimer's. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Molot is only making aluminum GK-01 now? if they are, they will be for commercial sales only, unless they designed the aluminum mag to be as sturdy as the current production M16 mag, I really don't see the Russian military issuing these to troops. they tried it with the aluminum AKM "waffle" mag in the 80s in Afghanistan, and it was a resounding failure, mag was easily dented. dented mag bodies are not conducive for feed rounds. of course to be fair, the aluminum AKM mag was really, really thin. about the same thickness as the HK33 40 rounder, which was a resounding failure for the Germans, same problem, easily dented. we also had a resounding failure when the first M16 mag was issued, a thin aluminum "waffle" pattern. Edited July 12, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thefitter 5 Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Molot is only making aluminum GK-01 now? if they are, they will be for commercial sales only, unless they designed the aluminum mag to be as sturdy as the current production M16 mag, I really don't see the Russian military issuing these to troops. they tried it with the aluminum AKM "waffle" mag in the 80s in Afghanistan, and it was a resounding failure, mag was easily dented. dented mag bodies are not conducive for feed rounds. of course to be fair, the aluminum AKM mag was really, really thin. about the same thickness as the HK33 40 rounder, which was a resounding failure for the Germans, same problem, easily dented. we also had a resounding failure when the first M16 mag was issued, a thin aluminum "waffle" pattern. It's a muzzle brake. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'm little confused, myself... I think Matthew is still high on his gun show luck today. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) ETA: Scroll down for some revised info on this. As I understand it, the production Molot GK-01 brake has always been made of aluminum with a steel threaded insert. There were a few made from titanium, but they were not for the commercial market and I highly doubt any made stateside. I have some Molot parts that are unavailable in the US, but the Ti GK-01 isn't one of them. I'd be thrilled to have one, just because Edited July 14, 2014 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Ti would be insanely expensive to cast and/or machine. I can only imagine what the collector price on one would be considering how high a normal consumer price would be. Wow... Cool to know! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 If I recall correctly LegionUSA had a limited amount available within the last year. I would contact them directly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 They have always been aluminum with a steel insert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 maybe they mean the orig russky version... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) I'm little confused, myself... I think Matthew is still high on his gun show luck today. oppps, "my bad" boy, did I "step on it", thought it was about mags. only person on this thread that is confused; is me , carry on. yes I am a little high on my luck. it happens so few, few times that if I have any good luck I'm stupefied Edited July 13, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I dug a little and got some interesting info on the materials used for the Molot GK-01 and how that has morphed through time. The first prototypes were made from steel and were not made by Molot. The first commercial (European market) version was Ti, limited production, and very expensive. Since we have been getting them stateside, they have always been aluminum with a steel insert. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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