goldenpony 61 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I really don't feel the need for another $55 mag plus $7 shipping. I have several poly mags that all work well. On the other hand, I am very curious about the steel mags, and have read a lot of rave reviews on them. If they ever go on a sale, maybe $40 - $45 or even free shipping I will most likely try one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah, I feel you. Went over to the CSSPECS web site tonight to look them over again. No scratch and dent mags left for sale, and the others are $55 a pop plus shipping, and he currently has 487 of them on hand. I want some bad, but I simply can't pay that price for one mag. Maybe others can and will, but I can't..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 mow a few lawns, get a paper route? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 They are good and give the s 12 a real bad ass look and feel. Worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Pm him and ask if he'll reduce shipping on multiple mag order. And yes agree badass mag. Waiting for vepr12 to be released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Its a direct correlation to how long they take to produce and the cost of the parts used in production. Also figure that the tooling cost was supposed to be spread on three years of production.. And guess what happened four days ago? (clue it looks like "anned" and has a "B" at the beginning)..... I may be a little bitter for the next couple weeks or so. Also. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81415-saiga-12-forum-member-discount-code/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I feel really bad about this ban. Not for shooters so much as people like csspec and other custom rifle makers. Alot of people are going to lose their businesses or at least it will be changed from what they want to do. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Don't have any for the 12 ga yet, but the .308 mags were worth every penny... Will defiantly be getting some.. Finances have been dismal this quarter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zippyman 3 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Its a direct correlation to how long they take to produce and the cost of the parts used in production. Also figure that the tooling cost was supposed to be spread on three years of production.. And guess what happened four days ago? (clue it looks like "anned" and has a "B" at the beginning)..... I may be a little bitter for the next couple weeks or so. Also. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81415-saiga-12-forum-member-discount-code/ It's an awful break, but that said, pretty much every Saiga in inventory was sold at one time, in a period of a few days - and a bunch more will be trading hands over the next few months - From what I can tell, about 1,000 Vepr 12's are available for sale as of today.. no telling how many Saigas and Veprs sold last week, but if you believe the Russians, they were looking for 100k sales in the US this year - and you know they dumped everything they had available at us as fast as they could after about March.. figure 50k new guns, plus a boatload of guns will be popping out of safes across the country & finding new homes (and those new owners are gonna want extra mags).. And at the same time, the makers of the plastic mags will have a decision to make as to whether or not to do another run of mags - (I picked up 22 SGM 12 rounders off the clearance bin with my Saiga 12 for $13.xx each).. - doubt that retailer will order any more with profits like that! It's gonna be hard to convince the big chain stores to devote shelf space for plastic mags for a "dead" gun & harder still for a small retailer to justify selling a couple mags a week at a few dollars profit, per mag. Not cheaper than dirt is out of $15 Saiga mags, and they still show some $20 saiga mags - but those will disappear over the next couple weeks as everyone gets their new toys. The next batch of plastic mags will cost more than the $45 each most have been selling them for, so $45 ~ $55 isn't really too bad of a spread.. If it were me, I'd double down on advertising & social media (facebook) - Let people know those mags are available - Peddle them on Gunbroker, Calguns, - the other various state forums - The High Road, etc.. Send some free ones to the guy @ "the truth about guns", so when those new Saiga/Vepr owners get their guns over the next few weeks, and they go looking for goodies - cssspecs pops on their google search. You already have a better product - I've never seen one and I know it, just let people know it's out there - even if it isn't the cheapest, it should last the lifetime of the gun - which makes it an excellent value & worth the investment. Edited July 22, 2014 by Zippyman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sdustin 578 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Zippy I agree 100% about the social media aspect, id go farther and send afew free samples to all the big youtube guys if they will do a review video. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zippyman 3 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Zippy I agree 100% about the social media aspect, id go farther and send afew free samples to all the big youtube guys if they will do a review video. I'd probably go one step further & try to cut a deal with someone like Cope's, Aim Surplus, Classic, etc for a big run on whatever mags you have quantity of - An email blast from one of the big guys could probably move several hundred mags in just a couple days, which would both get the brand name out there & get a cash infusion to offset some of the sunk development costs. You know that the week of July 28th there will be 600+ new Vepr owners out there who each got *1* five-round mag with their gun.. lol.. (Buds and Classic's pre-orders) I know if I wanted 5 rounds in a shotgun, I wouldn't need a Vepr! Edited July 22, 2014 by Zippyman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbear 2 Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I should have jumped on the scratch and dent, but I don't feel all that bad about $55/mag. Having them in hand makes it a lot more palatable. These things are fucking tanks. Still have to file them a bit to fit, but otherwise, I'm pretty happy with them, and will keep an eye on CSS for other things in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 I don't really NEED another magazine, but I'd like to try one of the CSSPECS steel mags out. Since I don't really need one, I will probably (that's the way it is spelled, not prolly) wait until there is some kind of sale. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 We should have some "scratch and dents" fairly soon.. I have 14 crates of mags to sort this next week, likely some have a little scuffing or scratches. We may do a sale for "expiration day" which is September 13, marking the 10th year since the expiration of the federal AWB.. 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 2, 2014 Report Share Posted August 2, 2014 Make it a Christmas sale, I will most likely be settled in the new place by then and ... well Merry Christmas stuff my stocking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Csspecs, I paid more than $55. per mag & I still think they were worth every penny. Fit, function, durability & appearance are freaking great, thanks for making these a reality. Same goes for my original MD20, it was worth every penny of $260.00 I bought another at the current pricing, the 1st is still money well spent. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Its a direct correlation to how long they take to produce and the cost of the parts used in production. Also figure that the tooling cost was supposed to be spread on three years of production.. And guess what happened four days ago? (clue it looks like "anned" and has a "B" at the beginning)..... I may be a little bitter for the next couple weeks or so. Also. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81415-saiga-12-forum-member-discount-code/ You didn't make that, someone else did...therefore you should give them away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 3, 2014 Report Share Posted August 3, 2014 Its a direct correlation to how long they take to produce and the cost of the parts used in production. Also figure that the tooling cost was supposed to be spread on three years of production.. And guess what happened four days ago? (clue it looks like "anned" and has a "B" at the beginning)..... I may be a little bitter for the next couple weeks or so. Also. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81415-saiga-12-forum-member-discount-code/ You didn't make that, someone else did...therefore you should give them away HA, Yeah I wish I did not make them. It would be easier to do sales if I had others making them for me.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Where they hiding on the website???? Can't seem to find them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Razorback 72 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Here is a link, http://stores.csspecs.com/saiga-12-gauge/ They're built tough as a tank!! It took a little filing to get it to fit my 08 vodka special, but it's the best built magazine compared to the other US made plastic stick magazines by a longshot!!! Highly recommended.!!!! Edited August 16, 2014 by Razorback Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Its a direct correlation to how long they take to produce and the cost of the parts used in production. Also figure that the tooling cost was supposed to be spread on three years of production.. And guess what happened four days ago? (clue it looks like "anned" and has a "B" at the beginning)..... I may be a little bitter for the next couple weeks or so. Also. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/81415-saiga-12-forum-member-discount-code/ Your price is in line for steel mags. for this weapon! People are just use to plastic prices. What those people aren't thinking about is, this is a banned weapon now, how long will their plastics mags last? How long will companies continue to run the plastic ones, I'll bet they'll be glad to pay 100 per mag a couple years from now................ 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I gave in and ordered one. Still think they're a bit spendy, but I had to try one for myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Just ordered 3. WIth the Coupon for 5% off they are $54.58 including shippiing. I have Russian 8 rounders and I am interested to see how these compare at half the price (or less in my case). 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 Your price is in line for steel mags. for this weapon! People are just use to plastic prices. What those people aren't thinking about is, this is a banned weapon now, how long will their plastics mags last? How long will companies continue to ran the plastic ones, I'll bet they'll be glad to pay 100 per mag a couple years from now................ Thank you, means a lot coming from someone that knows what goes into making firearms parts for a living. And thank you all for the orders. Hopefully your pleased with them. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Just ordered 3. WIth the Coupon for 5% off they are $54.58 including shippiing. I have Russian 8 rounders and I am interested to see how these compare at half the price (or less in my case). 1911 Hey man, how did you use the forum discount? I might have missed it, but I didn't see a place to enter a coupon code when I had a mag in my shopping cart on the CS site... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I used the discount on a recent order. If I remember, You have to continue on with the order to the part where you enter your shipping address and CC#. There is a box where you can enter gift card or coupon. It's only 5%, but every bit adds up. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I received my magazine today. Very nice workmanship, but I will say this-filing it to fit is a bit more difficult than claimed. The first part filing until the mag would go all the way in wasn't that hard. I am still working on the second part, filing until the catch will snap into place. I wore myself out and it still isn't snapping into place. Will work some more on it tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 It varies a lot gun to gun, and the size and quality of file does play a big part in how much effort it takes to fit them. If you have a decent vise that has semi smooth jaws, you can grab the top half of the rear catch to do the second part. Its way faster if your not chasing the mag around. I find that setting the mag on a slight angle so that the area being filed is flat speeds the process by a good amount, since it takes less effort to find flat than some random angle. Once you get close, coloring the bare section with a bit of sharpie marker will show you any high spots the catch is contacting (the high spots will have the marker rubbed off). In my defense, the forum members requested them to be tight and free of wiggles, even if fitting was needed.. Thus they are. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2014 (edited) FINALLY filed enough off to get the magazine to snap into place. Stuffed 8 rounds into her and took her out back. 8 out of 8 flawless. Might hit it a little bit more with the file, but I'd say, the magazine works very well. Very nice workmanship. Not cheap, but then again, it is cheaper than the Ruskie 8 rounder. Get some! Edited August 27, 2014 by goldenpony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldenpony 61 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2014 Got a question. Do you recommend any type of lubricant on your steel magazines? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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