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#1 tchick

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:23 PM

Not a Saiga, but this is my newest addition. It's Zastava PAP M85 .223 pistol. This one has the factory magazine adapter to use AR magazines. I have a bunch of accessories in route to turn this into a usable pistol.

 

SB 47 Arm brace

Stormwerkz scope mount rail

Attach rail to front hand guard (for light)

Light

Red dot sight

 

I also plan on refinishing the wood on the front hand guard. I have some of the parts ordered but it'll take a little while to finish it up. I'll post photos as it progresses.

 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:43 PM

Awesome! It'll be one sick "pistol" when finished. Good choice on .223, too. Who knows what the future of x39 ammunition is.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

I just got mine too!  But I got the stock version without the adapter.  There is a bunch I want to do with it, and it's such a nice shooter!



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:01 PM

J&g has an offer for the stock m85 and 35 mags (not a typo!) for 600$. Personally though if i were to run 5.56 id get what you got man, its a tempting deal.

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:06 PM

Guys, feel free to post your photos in this thread. I'd like to see what everyone else does with theirs, too.

 

I'm also thinking about replacing the muzzle piece with one of the brakes I've seen.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

I'd share but mine eats the lowly 7.62x39. Lolz.

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Posted 25 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

I guess I should've made the thread title more generic or included the 7.62 model, too.


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Posted 25 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

Here is a pic of mine. Refinished handguards with red chestnut. Came out pretty good and the grain shows through very well. Hoping to get an sb47 for it soon. Glad I got the .223 considering everything that is going on.

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Don't know why the pic is sideways. It's not in the original.

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 08:19 AM

Here it is:

 

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Wait, wrong one.  Here you go: 

 

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I haven't had the opportunity to do anything to it yet but it's comin'.  First I plan on getting a Sigbrace while I figure out the best way to SBR, next is replacing the front handguards and then getting a light.  Sometime after that I want to get a red-dot mounted.



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Posted 26 July 2014 - 12:26 PM

Here it is:

 

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Wait, wrong one.

 

That to me looks like a prototype CATamount Rifle......


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#11 tchick

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 06:47 PM

 

Here it is:

 

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Wait, wrong one.

 

That to me looks like a prototype CATamount Rifle......

 

 

To me it looks like he had a CATastrophic failure.


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#12 tchick

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 08:28 PM

The easiest (and cheapest) way to add rails. I picked up two short Magpul MOE rails. The rails have backing plates with screws. Put the screws through the holes in the rail and just barely start the screws into the threaded hole of the backing plates. Lift off the top handguard and put the rails in place. The screws will fit through the slotted holes of the handguard. Put the top handguard back on and tighten the rail screws, align the rails in place as you tighten. The backing plates will wedge the rails in place. I can't take credit for this trick. I remembered seeing this done on a Draco pistol awhile back. The light in the photos is one I had on another firearm. I just put it on because I had it on hand. I'm thinking about going with one of the combination light/laser handgun lights in the future.

 

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 08:33 PM

That is pretty ingenious.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:11 PM

I received my SB47 today. Added an Echo 93 sling mount to it and put it on the pistol. Sorry for the crappy cell phone photos.

 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 11:52 AM

I went with the same sling plate but not before getting the yp version that goes between receiver and grip. Now i can swap the sig brace for the standard plate if i want it as compact as possible. Gotta love these mini aks lol!

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:08 PM

That Echo 93 sling mount fixes all my concerns.  Thanks!

 

ETA: Did you guys need to use a longer pistol grip screw than factory-issue with that Magpul grip?


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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:32 PM

Nope, the screw provided by magpul did just fine. Get some blue loctite though, you're gonna want it.
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Posted 29 July 2014 - 04:51 PM

I used RPK rails on my upper and guard and modified them to fit into the wood. I like the magpul idea better. Not mods. 

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Ended up painting it and went with a different hand guard. Just need a PA micro dot mount. 

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:05 PM

There's a company that makes a rail piece for the top cover but I don't remember who does it... I'm wanting to go that route with that handguard, AZG.  Does it work well?  It's only like, $55.



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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:08 PM

Stormwerks makes the top cover rail you're talkin about, and a couple other ppl too.



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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:49 PM

Stormwerks makes the top cover rail you're talkin about, and a couple other ppl too.

 

Great pics, guys. I'm planning on using the Stormwerkz rail on mine. Once my piggy bank fills back up some I'll be getting it and a red dot for it.


I used RPK rails on my upper and guard and modified them to fit into the wood. I like the magpul idea better. Not mods. 

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Ended up painting it and went with a different hand guard. Just need a PA micro dot mount. 

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Who makes that cheek rest? Do you like it?



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Posted 29 July 2014 - 07:55 PM

There's a company that makes a rail piece for the top cover but I don't remember who does it... I'm wanting to go that route with that handguard, AZG.  Does it work well?  It's only like, $55.

Its Manticore arms actually. yes, works ok, no testing under fire so far. too hot right now. yes only 55 for the polymer and more for the metal. top cover comes out sometime later on. 

 

 

Stormwerks makes the top cover rail you're talkin about, and a couple other ppl too.

 

Great pics, guys. I'm planning on using the Stormwerkz rail on mine. Once my piggy bank fills back up some I'll be getting it and a red dot for it.


I used RPK rails on my upper and guard and modified them to fit into the wood. I like the magpul idea better. Not mods. 

image_zps053d3418.jpg

 

Ended up painting it and went with a different hand guard. Just need a PA micro dot mount. 

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Who makes that cheek rest? Do you like it?

 

Its a Vepr 12 stock. Cheek piece is integrated. Vepr 12 and or RPK rear trunnion. 


yes, I like a longer length of pull so I enjoy it very much. Angle is nice too. Seems a bit long for some. 


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 03:35 AM

just recently within the past week the majority of the m92 paps have been sold out.. like the mini dracos..

 

http://www.jgsales.c...ed-p-57965.html

 

http://www.cheaperth...m/product/83741

 

http://www.vizardsgu.../7-ghg3089n.htm

 

http://www.copesdist...tol-p-5559.html

 

http://www.preppergu...-magazines.html

 

http://www.classicfi...d-guns/papm92pv

 

http://www.centerfir...m/HG3089-N.aspx

 

http://www.atlanticf...l.html?Itemid=0


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Posted 30 July 2014 - 06:08 PM

my m92 and m85npWP_20140716_008_zpsd74f8c2c.jpg

 

I think the sights on these leave a lot to be desired. So i did a little fabricating

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 06:34 PM

^^now thats somethin you could market! Howd you go about doing that?

And voonman, i noticed that too. A week ago or so i contemplated grabbing another and checked slickguns--alot of places were listed as in stock but when you actually clicked go to site--gone.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 07:16 PM

The first one i made i welded a solid semicircle on top of the sight. then used a dremel to shape it and even it out. Then i put it in a drill press vise and using some digital calipers, and the initial notch of the sight, lined it up to drill. I started small and worked my way up to a 9/64th (I think) on the 200m side. This gave a nice ghost ring around the front hood. I went smaller on the 400m side, thinking that it would be a little more precise.  The others I made were the same process I just made the semi circle an arch so as not to have to drill so much.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 01:21 AM

^^now thats somethin you could market! Howd you go about doing that?

And voonman, i noticed that too. A week ago or so i contemplated grabbing another and checked slickguns--alot of places were listed as in stock but when you actually clicked go to site--gone.

Its strange how things work..obama banned the importation of russian guns...and sometimes the most desired non russian AKM type rifles become scarce.


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:04 AM

I think most people misunderstood the ban to include all ak's or are banking on them being banned soon.



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 09:52 AM

Saw an un-converted Saiga .308 for $2k on ARFCOM not too long ago.  Such BS.

 

On topic: if I were going to buy a flash-hider for my M85, what threads would be under this circular piece?


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:59 PM

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