SW1423 0 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Looking for opinions on the 7.62x39 pmags. And do they make some that are steel reinforced. I like durability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I've been using one quite a bit. It's not steel reinforced and I haven't really put the mag through a ton of abuse. As a range mag it works great but if you want the most durable mag possible you might want to look elsewhere. I hope they do make a steel reinforced version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inebriated 31 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I love them for the range. Saves a few lbs in the range bag over the steelies, easy to unload, and dangit they just look nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I know the purist hate them, but the Tapco AK mag for $10 is a great mag. Much cheaper than the Magpuls, and In my opinion, just as tough as the Magpul. For serious,work, though, I would use steel com-block, bugarian circle 10s, or Polish ones with the steel inserts. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuPiN8oR 333 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 I agree with the aforementioned comment. If you're gonna run a non steel reinforced mag the tapco mags get the job done. Whenever magpul makes a steel reinforced version ill snag some. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inebriated 31 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) Much cheaper than the Magpuls I wouldn't say "much" cheaper... $8 is the going rate for Tapco here, Magpuls are $11. Edited August 24, 2014 by Inebriated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Much cheaper than the Magpuls I wouldn't say "much" cheaper... $8 is the going rate for Tapco here, Magpuls are $11. Ah, Last time I checked is when they Magpuls first came out and were the "must have" item. Prices were around $20 then, IIRC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inebriated 31 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 Much cheaper than the Magpuls I wouldn't say "much" cheaper... $8 is the going rate for Tapco here, Magpuls are $11. Ah, Last time I checked is when they Magpuls first came out and were the "must have" item. Prices were around $20 then, IIRC. Nah, that'd be insane. $13 max is what I've seen from the big online retailers, and a lot of the time it's closer to $11 or $12 with sales and whatnot. The Tapcos have done better in some abuse tests, but I mean, the Magpul isn't weak by any means, and I don't need either of them to be robust... they're just range mags to me, they just have to fit and feed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have one. Its flawless in feeding but just don't drop the rifle on the mag and the lugs won't sheer off. They are good to go other than that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
opto_isolator 3 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 I thought that Magpul was going to release a steel reinforced version of this mag? I don't see anything on their web site that indicates that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inebriated 31 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 They are. They've mentioned it on Facebook, and at SHOT show and possibly the NRA show. If you call them, they'll probably tell you "sometime soon". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted August 26, 2014 Report Share Posted August 26, 2014 There was a lot of hype when the first came out, and demand (sic prices) were high. Just like US Palm. They were STUPID expensive when they came out, and all the AK gurus said they were the best thing. I got one, and thought it was no better than a Tapco. At least the Tapco you could intentionally remove the base plate for disassembly and cleaning. The US Palms are not supposed to be able to disassemble with the bottom cup/base plate epoxied on. The problem was, they had a nasty habit of disassembling themselves when the magazine was loaded, with the glue on the baseplate letting go..... I sold mine and bought 4 Tapcos...They were $45 when they came out. Now I see them for $25ish. Still about 3X times too expensive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mbjku 0 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Looking for opinions on the 7.62x39 pmags. And do they make some that are steel reinforced. I like durability. I own many of them and they are great, nothing else is required besides little shaving for this pin sticking out of mag. I did it carefully with my dremel. Also I know for fact that magpul mags are superior AK mags to any besides OEM russian made. My friend own Tapco made and he has to do some other modes because rounds doesn't feed well, Magpul is just great on this! I got two more couple of days ago from Big Bass SC store for $19 each, so not that expensive. Edited September 4, 2014 by mbjku Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 My favorite mgs, in no particular order: Polish polymer with steel inserts (military ones, not commercial) Bulgarian Circle 10s Russian burnt orange bakelite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaFL 4 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 Dollar for dollar you can't beat the Tapco slab sided mags and they look good also. No snob appeal but thye work and have tested better than other poly mags for abuse. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted September 14, 2014 Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 I ran Tapco 1st and 2nd gen AK mags back in free America as range mags. I do have some of the bakelite orange Tapco slab sides I bought as "repair kits" before the ban, but haven't tried them as mags. I am going to use the bodies to rebuild some of my beat up metal mil-surps. I'll use the Com-bloc spring, follower, and floorplate locks with the Tapco body, and keep the empty metal bodies I replaced so I stay Kalifornication legal. (Really stupid law!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper299 284 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I've had no problem with the Magpul mags. But in a SHTF situation, I would grab the steel euros. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1key 7 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I would be interested if Magpuls were metal lined and came in 20-rounders... M 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaFL 4 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 As long as it's not a Korean or Pro Mag they all seem to work well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I finally used the Tapco orange smooth side bodies to rebuild some of my trashed com-bloc steel. Worked great, and look good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18JtG4alPT4#t=11 Magpuls did OK, except they sheared the front and rear lugs off, whacking the magazine in a durability test a couple minutes in. Edited November 2, 2014 by imarangemaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted November 4, 2014 Report Share Posted November 4, 2014 I suspect Magpul will kill the steel-lined ones because of bad sales on the all-polymer mags, then these too will fade away. We really didnt need more breakable polymer mags, the Tapco slab sides are great for that already and cheaper. Now steel-lined polymer mags, THATS a hole in the market right now. Magpul doesnt seem to understand that AK guys choose the AK because the primary #1 important thing to them is durability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inebriated 31 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I suspect Magpul will kill the steel-lined ones because of bad sales on the all-polymer mags, then these too will fade away. We really didnt need more breakable polymer mags, the Tapco slab sides are great for that already and cheaper. Now steel-lined polymer mags, THATS a hole in the market right now. Magpul doesnt seem to understand that AK guys choose the AK because the primary #1 important thing to them is durability. You realize how downright arrogant it is to say that Magpul, the maker of arguably the most durable AR mag, with servicemen and women in mind, doesn't understand that people want durability, right? They have stated many times over that they did all-polymer mags first to get the geometry and exterior correct, without wasting money tweaking things with steel reinforcements. They also stated more recently that steel-reinforced mags are coming at SHOT. So... no... they haven't killed the steel-lined ones. And no, they aren't misunderstanding anything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18JtG4alPT4#t=11 Magpuls did OK, except they sheared the front and rear lugs off, whacking the magazine in a durability test a couple minutes in. They use a harder polymer. So it shears easier, but is less prone to deformation over the long term. Edited November 5, 2014 by Inebriated Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 The best mags I ever had were Polish military polymers with the metal re-enforcement in them. Aim surplus had them about 6 or 7 years ago, but you never see them anymore. There re Polish commercial out there with no steel, and they are no better than Promags.. Circle 10s are great, but stupid expensive. Years ago they would come on sale for $24ish (once saw them $19). $45 is just insane.... I'll stick with my Com-Bloc steel and Tapco slab sides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 Please. Magpul AR mags are great for what they are, $8 polymer mostly-reliable magazines. But they arent the best, or amazing, just merely decent. They are jam-o-matics in my, and others, 300BLK rifles. Their 20-round mags continue to have serious problems, after years of feedback and development. Meanwhile, Lancer and others are putting out lightweight, reliable, steel-lipped polymer mags that have a fraction of Magpuls issues. But Magpul is in the polymer business. If they have servicemen in mind, it is as a customer base. They recently leveraged their market power to create a completely new accesory-mounting system that benefits only, wait for it, polymer handguard manufacturers. And the fanboys lap it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I run Magpul followers in my USGI mags. ZERO malfunctions....but am not a fan of their AR magazines. (cracks, splits, don't fit some lowers, etc.. From what I see, the Tapco smoothside AK mags are at least as good as the Magpuls and cheaper, but oh, wait... Tapco is not KEEEWWEEELLLLLL (COOL). Edited November 5, 2014 by imarangemaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imarangemaster 315 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) When you consider the strength of the Kalashnikov weapon system is its absolute reliability and indestructibility, using a magazine of less than the same standard is ridiculous. My "Real World" SHTF and EOTWAWKI magazines are mo com=block steel with Tapco followers. My Tapco rebuilt ones are merely standby mags, since they were used to rebuild some really beat to shit com-blocs I would not trust. If I had the money, I would love some Izhmash or Tula orange bakelites, but at $35 a pop on my retirement income, that's not happening. I use the Tapco smooth side orange to fill that visual need. Edited November 5, 2014 by imarangemaster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
semper299 284 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 Magpul AK mags are great for range use. I have a few and that's about all I take to the range. But the steel com blocs are what I have loaded and ready to go. In a SHTF situation, the Pmags would stay home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 (edited) The best mags I ever had were Polish military polymers with the metal re-enforcement in them. Do those have steel reinforcement around the bottom of the magazine? I have some that only have reinforcement up top, lips and lugs, that I bought from a member on here. I snapped the bottom of one off at the range when I was using the mag as a rest. Shot the floor plate retainer down range and dumped out the remaining rounds. Only things salvageable were floor plate, spring and follower. I've switched to ((10))'s and steel only. Edited November 10, 2014 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlexD1291 0 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Unless your unlucky like me and are in a controlling state and you can only have 10rd mags Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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