tbryanh 11 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) I got into AK74s for the cheap rifles and the cheap surplus ammo. Now that surplus ammo is no longer available, and the closest substitute, Golden Tiger, has not been available for a long time, it appears I might be stuck with low powered commercial ammo. I am not a happy camper, and I am thinking about bailing out of my AK74s. What is your take on this? Edited September 7, 2014 by tbryanh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) 5.45 is still going to be around for a long time. Look at all the people that stocked up. There must be hundreds of thousands of cases in the US. As soon as that dries up, expect to see more of it produced domestically. I'm not aware of any significant difference, in power, between the surplus and domestic. I have two 74s and have no plans to get rid of them. Edited September 7, 2014 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would say to give it some time and the market demand will get manufactures to respond. Little has been done on commercial ammo because they could not compete with surplus price for the same quality of ammo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 Plenty of places still have surplus. Despite what the dealers would have you believe, there's probably still a ridiculous amount of it over here. It's not as cheap as it was, but it's still by far the cheapest serious caliber to shoot. Right now, the biggest turn-off in my mind is the price of mags, but I've got plenty so I've got no reason to ditch the rifle/caliber whatsoever. Side note - this forum was completely dead for exactly a month. Wow. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 7, 2014 Report Share Posted September 7, 2014 I have always thought it to be a dead round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Its alive and well, and has been. The only thing that will kill it will be the lack of rifles made. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Seem to be number of 5.45 rifles hitting the market from places other than Russia. It's been around since 1974 so there are a bunch of them in circulation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted September 12, 2014 Report Share Posted September 12, 2014 Never got into it and never will. I would rather pay a little extra for 5.56, and I always had a feeling that this might happen. Have at it, I won't detract from your available supply. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 Kind of a Chevy vs Ford thing, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 5.45 is still going to be around for a long time. Look at all the people that stocked up. There must be hundreds of thousands of cases in the US. As soon as that dries up, expect to see more of it produced domestically. I'm not aware of any significant difference, in power, between the surplus and domestic. I have two 74s and have no plans to get rid of them. I have always heard that 7N6 is noticeably hotter than the commercial stuff, and more accurate too. I have never shot any though. It seems the 74s perform better with the lighter 53gr. bullet as opposed to the 55,60,and 70gr. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector 12 37 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 5.45 is still around at "reasonable" prices. While it may not be as cheap at it once was, I paid $350 for a crate with the bands still intact with the can opener. 2160 rounds for $350 made it about 16 cents a round. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Like I said, I have a feeling there's a LOT more of it over here than they're willing to admit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scattergun10 125 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 5.45 is still around at "reasonable" prices. While it may not be as cheap at it once was, I paid $350 for a crate with the bands still intact with the can opener. 2160 rounds for $350 made it about 16 cents a round. That's a good deal considering the current political climate.Where did you get it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
incognito485 26 Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's still cheaper than most 5.56 bulk ammo. I've conferred with a lot AR enthusiasts who have told me that the 5.45 is a great round (ballistically), and I've spoken with a range instructor who believes its ballistically superior to the 5.56 through testing. It's a great round, and the commercial market has already taken advantage of it as of late. I think the worst case scenario would be that it ends up like the 10mm. People still make it, but not as much and its a little more expensive. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaFL 4 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Plenty of Red Army Std. ammo, Silver & Brown Bear. SG Ammo has spam cans, whats the problem ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Broda 0 Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 There are still lots of domestic manufacturers, only the 7n6 was banned. I think its around 20 cents a round right now. 5.45 > 7.62 :^) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaFL 4 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Stock up on the spam cans and you won't have to worry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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