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How to fit a Vepr-12 Lower Handguard on an S-12?

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As the title states, I'm wondering what's involved to fit one of the Vepr lower handguards on a sportorized Saiga. I've done a bit of searching on the topic and it appears they will fit the 030 series tactical Saigas but I haven't found anything about the others, like the IZ-109 I'd like to put one on.

 

I did see that Legion carries a bolt-on handguard retainer that clamps on the barrel and Dinzag has a lower handguard retainer that uses the forend screw hole. My gut tells me something like this is all I need, but past experience has proven me wrong before so I thought I'd throw the question out to see what wisdom I can pick up before making a decision to head down this path.

 

Thanks in advance,

FLTF3

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Perhaps K-Var's "RPK" S12 hand guard retainer.

One thing to keep in mind is the inside dimensions of the receivers are different. The V12 is narrower so you will probably end up with a loose fitting hand guard when used in a Saiga.

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Double check your info as the V12 handguard does not mount up on 030/040's nor is there a retainer out there that supports mounting them up to an Iz-109.

 

Edited: Maybe I shouldn't be so eager to jump the gun. Mullet man maybe onto something. I do know that the retainers the OP mentioned will not work.

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Good info. I kinda figured if it could be done there would be something out there where someone had done it. I like the design of the handguard, but a sloppy fit is not what I'm looking for.

 

Thanks Guys.

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Perhaps K-Var's "RPK" S12 hand guard retainer.

One thing to keep in mind is the inside dimensions of the receivers are different. The V12 is narrower so you will probably end up with a loose fitting hand guard when used in a Saiga.

Mullet man you are onto something. I have a Kvar S12 retainer and it actually fits quite well. However the metal "wings" in front of the Vepr handguard protrude out to much, so the retainer is not able to slide all the way onto the handguard. I'm sure with some filling it can be made to be held in place securely. I will post pictures on Monday.

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Good info. I kinda figured if it could be done there would be something out there where someone had done it. I like the design of the handguard, but a sloppy fit is not what I'm looking for.

 

Thanks Guys.

A little ingenuity and it could be remedied. The actual difference is very tiny. I just don't know if the Kvar retainer will work or not. I should have tried it when I had it on my S12. 

Legion FTW.

 

Perhaps K-Var's "RPK" S12 hand guard retainer.

One thing to keep in mind is the inside dimensions of the receivers are different. The V12 is narrower so you will probably end up with a loose fitting hand guard when used in a Saiga.

Mullet man you are onto something. I have a Kvar S12 retainer and it actually fits quite well. However the metal "wings" in front of the Vepr handguard protrude out to much, so the retainer is not able to slide all the way onto the handguard. I'm sure with some filling it can be made to be held in place securely. I will post pictures on Monday.

 

How's the side to side play at the receiver end?

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Good info. I kinda figured if it could be done there would be something out there where someone had done it. I like the design of the handguard, but a sloppy fit is not what I'm looking for.

 

Thanks Guys.

A little ingenuity and it could be remedied. The actual difference is very tiny. I just don't know if the Kvar retainer will work or not. I should have tried it when I had it on my S12. 

Legion FTW.

 

 

Mullet Man, I have to give it to you, this was a great idea. These will work with very minor fitting to the handguard. Pictures will be posted soon!

 

That's what I love about this place. There is no shortage of folks who are able to come up with ingenious ways to do something like this.

 

Thanks Mullet Man & Legion for your time on this one. I've got one on order & I'll be keeping a close eye out for the specifics on getting it to fit 032.gif

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So I'm in for when Legion has the railed Vepr 12 lower hand guard and Kvar lower retainer combo available in Dec. for $75. That Zenitco buttstock looks wicked.

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