JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'm planning to buy a handgun in the next 6 months when I save up enough. My first idea was an M57 Tokarev but I've been told that the 7.62x25mm round is... "less than ideal" for self defense if it comes to that. I've always liked Remington, I was going to get a Remington Pump before I settled on my Saiga, so I figured I'd get their 1911 as I've always loved that model handgun as well. But as I've been researching I've found lots of 1911's for less that I'm assured are reliable, good handguns that are quite a bit less. Am I just paying for the Remington name or are they quality handguns worth the extra 200 or so dollars? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) I've been told that the 7.62x25mm round is... "less than ideal" for self defense if it comes to that. really? there are 3+ million dead germans that would no doubt disagree with that Edited October 25, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 ...or build a 1911...it's not hard. Hi cap 45? 1911 wide body frame, other parts of your choice...torture test and tune until satisfied. I may go that route someday. For now, my Springfield 1911 works great. You can't go wrong with JMB. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I bought an r1 when they first came out. I actually havent shot it yet but from both of my local shops said they had send them out pretty quickly for repair work. Maybe it was just some bad luck. Can't go wrong with a Springfield Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you're looking for a reasonably priced 1911, check out the Ruger as well. I picked one up a few months ago and have been very happy with it. Accurate and reliable out of the box. I will say as much as I like the 1911 platform it is not my bedside self defense go to, and I would probably never carry one either. Tons of fun at the range but I like the magazine cap of a smaller faster round for sd. Hence the S&W .40 under my pillow. I would sleep just fine with a little Tok at the ready as well if I didn't have children in the house and close neighbors. Wicked little round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Many companies came out with the basic combat/military issue 1911, Add options, raise costs. Neighbor and a couple others I know have the basic GI type Remington 1911, no issues have every been brought up. Have 45's and 10mm's by many manufacturers and types. Buy what weapon you want. Are haters of every weapon, never had a duty or carry issue with 1911, Glock, S&W, or Sig. Good ammo, quality mags, all function as should. Not being a panic run situation, don't pick a weapon were ammo is not easily available at local sellers, is for weapon manufactured state side in any quantity? Got off brand and import shooters in different calibers. Can be a good weapons, just I go with best quality (not always price)and function available for daily use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Too bad the Charles Daily's aren't around anymore, great castings. Cheap price, quality/no thrills build. Gave mine to nephew. So, price does not always equal quality. Ruger, Rock River, and numerous others offer basic or package modification deals. Reputable builders and a good dealer take care of any flaws. Good ammo and quality mags. Sounds like you might be a bit "New" to handguns. Be wary of dealer who "Knows" what you need. Whatever you get, just practice, and practice some more. Oh, I do have the 57, one of the shooters I mentioned before, yet no one local carries ammo, no demand, so all ammo has to be bought on line or ways away on trip. Edited October 25, 2014 by Ruffian72 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Mark 2,452 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I've had mine for well over a year now. Probably about 300 rounds downrange. Never had a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Good to hear that they are at least quality pieces. Is there any conceivable reason they cost a fair bit more than ATI, Rock River, or Auto-Ordnance besides that Remington is a bigger name? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd seer clear of Auto Ordnance. Soft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobthetomato 15 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I have a rock island. Its made in the Philippines. Goes bang every time and is accurate. It is my carry gun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd seer clear of Auto Ordnance. Soft. Soft? What does that mean? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd seer clear of Auto Ordnance. Soft. Soft? What does that mean? They wear fast. Soft steel. A known issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Oh, thank you for the clarification. Seems like a bad loaner gun at a shooting range [where i found out they existed and shot 50 rounds out of one] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I'd seer clear of Auto Ordnance. Soft. Soft? What does that mean? poor metallurgy My advice dont buy a gun off the bottom shelf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Well I'm pondering a Rock Island Armory, Remington, or Ruger mostly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Any of those will do you well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 How about ATI? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 I don't know anything about ATI. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 springfield, sig, ruger or remington dont go any lower down the chain 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 what is the quality difference between Remington and Ruger compared to Rock Island, might I ask? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Fit finish and metallurgy Im a 1911 snob I carry one on duty, and as a CCW buy the best you can afford 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 i dunno if i'll be getting a CCW, its mostly going to be a fun shooter but i can keep it on hand around the house a lot easier than i can my 030 saiga 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinfreel 215 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I just bought a rock island GI . I like it, parkerized no metal blemishes. Action is decent and trigger ain't bad atall. Grips are cheap looking, and easily replaced. HHaven't shot it yet but maybe tomorrow I will. Bought at my LGS for 400 NIB. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 please give me a rundown after you shoot it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I bought a Cimarron 1911 A-1 last year in the polished blue finish. A beautiful 1911 that shoots as good as it looks. Got a hell of a deal on mine too. I wanted a traditional style 1911, not one with Novak sights, or rails, or any other bullshit. This pistol is exactly what I was seeking. All I did to mine was put rosewood checkered grips on it along with an ambidextrous safety since I shoot lefty. I love mine... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToEftxBOtfw http://www.gunblast.com/Cimarron-1911.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ruffian72 548 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Gunblast seems to have done a vid on most entry level/GI style 1911's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hickok45 seemed to like the Rock Island her tried out, though he's spoiled by that 2k or more 1911 he has. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lomotil 1 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) How about ATI? ATI ("American Tactical Imports") is the exact same thing as Rock Island Armory and Armscor. I forget which name they use as their "parent" brand, but they're all out of the same manufacturing facility. I think the difference is mainly rooted in the different configuration options (skeletonized triggers/spurs, hammers, grips, finish, and caliber.) Otherwise, they're all the same, and damned good, too. Edited October 27, 2014 by Lomotil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hmmmm, i was watching Hickok45 shoot both and he praised the Rock Island whilst pointing out many failings in the ATI. Anyone have thoughts on American Classic? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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