bcmsaiga 8 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 recoil spring can damage the front trunnion. spring made by wolff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Sure doesn't seem likely. The amount of force exerted by the recoil spring isn't shit compared to the impulse the bolt imparts to the locking surfaces when you fire. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcmsaiga 8 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 coo thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Don't take my answer as final, though - I'm not an expert, just positing based on what I know about how the whole system works. It is a different kind of force being exerted - someone else might know more or know better. Edited November 7, 2014 by Shandlanos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Damage? No, but the XP spring can cause the carrier to short stroke (not travel far enough into the rear of the receiver), which sometimes leads to the trigger not properly resetting, thereby allowing the hammer to follow the bolt back into battery. When that happens, your rifle will either not fire the next time you pull the trigger - or you could potentially experience a short burst of two rounds, if the hammer retains enough energy to strike the primer once the bolt locks into battery and the carrier tail stops blocking the hammer. Had an XP spring in my .223 for a while. I put it in there to soften the felt recoil when shooting hotter 5.56 loads. With the XP spring, it short stroked frequently when shooting weaker ammo like Wolf/Tulammo, sometimes firing doubles. Put the original spring back in, problem went away. The XP spring is best used in applications where you KNOW that the rifle is over-gassed - i.e. someone's botched home build. The Saiga is not going to be over-gassed from the factory, and it will probably act up if you put an XP spring and run some of the lightly-charged commercial 5.45x39 in it. Edited November 7, 2014 by mancat 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Most factory built guns don't need them. Just stick with what the rifle came with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcmsaiga 8 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 Ok will do thanks guys. i am really sorry to keep asking this but i am not going to run a god damn buffer. i just need to know how much trunnion smack is ok and if the guns life will be affected by it..i am going to be running mostly 7n6 for now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's not necessary, but it's also not going to do squat to the front trunnion either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JESS1344 508 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 BCM, CALL WOLFSPRING, AND TALK TO 'EM; THEY HAVE SOME VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE THAT WILL TALK TO YOU. JESS1344 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 BCM, CALL WOLFSPRING, AND TALK TO 'EM; THEY HAVE SOME VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE THAT WILL TALK TO YOU. JESS1344 They may try to sell him shit he doesn't need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 If it runs with a buffer, put the motherfucker in and STFU! It WILL NOT hurt shit. The Russians do not need one because they run 1 kind of ammo, and if there is any problem they just issue Ivan a new one and send that one back to the arsenal! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bcmsaiga 8 Posted November 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 ok ok. thanks a lot. thanks captain hero, truce? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 If it runs with a buffer, put the motherfucker in and STFU! It WILL NOT hurt shit. The Russians do not need one because they run 1 kind of ammo, and if there is any problem they just issue Ivan a new one and send that one back to the arsenal! They actually run a few different ammo types, much like our military. Just sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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