saltydecimator 482 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/11/07/saiga-9-available-europe/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 7, 2014 Report Share Posted November 7, 2014 I hope the Atlantic AK9s are good. It's our only hope since we're never gonna get the S9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matthew Hopkins 1,065 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I hope the Atlantic AK9s are good. if they do come out with one, I wouldn't jump and be the very first to buy it until I read how well it works. new stuff on the market tend to have issues, unlike later ones. I will let others be the guinea pig Edited November 8, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I hope the Atlantic AK9s are good. It's our only hope since we're never gonna get the S9. While I'm holding out for one too, I have a feeling they will be stupid expensive, judging by some of their other "in house" offerings that are mind bogglingly expensive for what one actually gets. More than $1400 and I lose interest fast. Especially when I dont already have anything in 9mm. Edited November 8, 2014 by Mullet Man Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'm guessing around $1100 but that's just a hunch. $800 would be even sweeter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 A 9mm AK is interesting but it offers few advantages over a 7.62x39 for the huge loss in power. After giving it some thought I don't think I'll be going that route myself but for those that want one I hope the Atlantic offerings are good quality and reasonably priced. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I like it, but would be a LOT more excited about a 9X39. Now THAT would be a hog killer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I don't see the appeal. Many other guns, that already exist, could fill the niche. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky63 46 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 dos it shoot 9by19 or9 by 18? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 If they're going to get a common caliber I'd prefer a .22lr Saiga. 9 isn't any cheaper than x39 and to reinvest in another gun I'd like something I could plink with on the cheap. Given that GSG already has a good corner on the 22 AK market it prob wouldn't happen anytime soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted November 8, 2014 Report Share Posted November 8, 2014 I wouldn't mind having one with a short barrel and a SIG arm brace. I feel that it will be reliable and cheaper to shoot than rifle ammo and may be the solution to plinking with the .22 long rifle availability and price gouging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 I'm happy that all 5 people in europe will be able to do the paperwork and get these rifles for personal target practice. It isn't all that interesting when you have a sea of solid carbines over here and made here already. For a full on AK nut, this would be the hen's tooth to their collection. I can see that. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 A 9mm AK is interesting but it offers few advantages over a 7.62x39 for the huge loss in power. After giving it some thought I don't think I'll be going that route myself but for those that want one I hope the Atlantic offerings are good quality and reasonably priced. The only reason I would want one is because it would be an AK. I was bit hard by the carbine pistol caliber rifles when they first gained traction in the US. When I started considering ballistics, the desire to own one started to fade. An SBR (or even pistols with a Sig brace) in AK or AR in standard calibers fill the niche very nicely...and will defeat body armor if necessary. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 To each his own but pistol cal carbines have only size, weight, and commonality with ones chosen sidearm going for them. They make sense but only as far as that goes. Good ones out there already that fill the need so IMHO dont see an AK 9mm being particularly desirable. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 I'm interested because I don't have a 'sub gun'. None of the sub guns on the market tickle my pickle like one that is an AK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 The PCC, is great for smaller ranges. I've got some really heavy plates I can shoot rifle at,but all the cool knock down targets are only rated for pistol caliber. A 9mm carbine gives a lot more feel than a 22lr, does and allows you to practice fundamentals even up close on steel targets. Try getting close to steel with a 22lr.ouch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted November 10, 2014 Report Share Posted November 10, 2014 An AK firing .44 magnum might make more sense, on the American market. The spawn of Dirty Harry and Ira. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 I have a couple but they are special use, one because it will store completely and easily inside a backpack and still accurately crank out 22 rds of 40SW before a reload. Take that away I wouldnt own it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Lots of much better pistol caliber carbines out there An AK in 9mm would be my last choice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 It would be my second choice, first being the Kriss Super V, third being a CX4. I'm just not a fan of the others I've seen, and I've been drooling over the Bizon and Vityaz since I first saw them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 my list is long lots of top shelf stuff to choose from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Lots of much better pistol caliber carbines out there An AK in 9mm would be my last choice Its okay, you can't always make the best choice. Seriously though, what is much better on your list? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Most pistol caliber carbines are the same action, big heavy bolt with a big spring behind it. 100+ year old tech. I don't see the advantage of an AK based over an AR-15 based carbine, when you take into account that neither has a gas system or rotating bolt. The AR-15 system has the advantage of having easily replaced parts, with no real disadvantage. I want to build out an pair of AR-15 9mm carbines to feed reloads.. Since 9mm cases can be reloaded significantly more times than a necked rifle round, I could have blasting ammo on the cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 Lots of much better pistol caliber carbines out there An AK in 9mm would be my last choice Its okay, you can't always make the best choice. Seriously though, what is much better on your list? HK MP5 or MP5sd is the top Many AR based 9mms from inexpensive to high end (dpms to JP or Larue) in heavy guns the UZIor a variety of Ingram based guns. Smith 76s MP40s swedish K variants PPSh ECT and a whole bunch more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 My problem is I'm not a huge fan of the AR, (I'll have one eventually though), and despite wanting to like HK stuff, I'm always a bit disappointed with it. I did like the Uzi I shot recently, my only problem with it is the stock is too short, and after a few rounds it felt like it was trying to take my lip off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Yes Atlantic is involved with a 9mm AK Project however we are not building the gun in house . We have teamed up with a well respected firm to develop and build the 9mm AK pistol and Rifle series . The builder & Atlantic have no desire to prematurely release an item that has not been 100% tested, we are going to great expense to run the crap out of these guns .This project has only been 5 months long to go from an idea to blueprints, CNC custom made parts and a solid working gun . We had already developed a 9 mm AK 10 years ago based on Surplus parts and it was a pain the but , quite fickle and surplus Used parts come & go this causing production problems. This AK 9mm will not be cheap but it will run & is well built with several other nice features this is an expensive gun to build from all new dedicated parts . The guns are currently in the Torture testing phase and if they all pass produciton will begin in Mid to Late Dec. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Thanks for the update. I believe I speak for most when I say we appreciate all that Atlantic does. I have multiple guns from Atlantic and sure to have more. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 We will do our best to keep you posted and feel free to email us at any time if you have questuions on the progress of the project , We are cuurently in the torture testing phase of the AK 9 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Lots of much better pistol caliber carbines out there An AK in 9mm would be my last choice Its okay, you can't always make the best choice. Seriously though, what is much better on your list? HK MP5 or MP5sd is the top A Dakota Tactical D34 9mm Carbine is pretty sweet as well. Here's my wife's: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 We have a similar rifle that Vector Arms has built for us the V94L , I really like the wood on your wifes gun that is sweet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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