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http://m.townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2014/11/11/showdown-5500-washington-state-gun-owners-intend-to-engage-in-civil-disobedience-over-i594-n1917126/page/fullDidn't

 

Did'nt hear about it until today.

 

5500 RSVP'd. No media coverage.

 

They made normal people criminals.

 

I will not comply!

 

I would gladly go to the aid of a fellow citizen (including law-enforcement), to enforce a "just" law but, this shit is over-the-top stupid.

 

The Initiative Process, in Washington, is supposed to address only one law.

 

This one went beyond the law and was too vague.

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I am waiting to see what appeal strikes it down.

 

Also, how can we financially hurt bloomberg and balmer? Avoiding MS products isn't a practical answer. Apple is just as bad, and linux isn't viable for most of us.

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The NRA hasn't done jack shit, and was completely missing from the runup to the elections. No commercials on TV or radio, nothing that would sway middle of the road voters who already knew how bad of a deal 594 was. The best that NRA did was send a lobbyist (Brian Judy) and several campaigners to work local shows, state fairs, and pass out stickers/yard signs. They've done nothing since.

 

Now people are wondering where the fuck Second Amendment Foundation is. SAF ran the competing initiative, 591, which would have outlawed any BCG requirements stricter than the federal standard. SAF and Alan Gottlieb have been completely silent since the election as well.

 

Everybody in WA here is wondering who will be the first to file a lawsuit. Nobody filed an injunction to stop the law from going into effect, and we were really hoping that someone would do that to put a delay on "implementation." I put quotes around implementation because the state AG has issued no official statement on how the law will be interpreted or enforced, and now it's down to individual state agencies and LEO depts issuing their own interpretation of the law, which frankly is fucked up.

 

For instance, the Fish & Wildlife Dept. basically said that firearms instructors for the purposes of hunter education will be considered LEOs, in order to make use of the LEO exemptions - makes NO fucking sense. Now we have some county sheriff's departments saying that, since the AG has been silent, they will be treating the law as if it never passed - i.e. they will not arrest people for sharing guns on public ranges, lending & borrowing, etc. and will advise against prosecution if consulted by county prosecutors.

 

A total fucked up situation here in Washington. We have this shit storm of a new law, and the state officials with the power to put a hurt on people's lives, are saying and doing nothing to explain how violators of the very explicit language of the law will be treated by LE and the courts. At this point it appears to be that everything will be based on prosecutorial discretion, which was what everyone was afraid of when the AG refused to issue an interpretation even BEFORE the election.

 

In all likelihood a lawsuit will probably not occur until someone is actually arrested and prosecuted. Otherwise a judge will probably just say there's no standing and refuse to take the case. So it's a legal standoff at this point. A lawyer could go after the constitutionality of the initiative due to violating several RCWs defining what an initiative can and cannot do - i.e. it cannot address multiple issues or create multiple changes to RCW (state code). 594 does a ton of things & changes multiple RCWs & definitions.  But if a lawyer wants to claim that citizens have been harmed, they will have to have standing, which means an arrest & prosecution.

 

ANY WAY, I could not make this rally due to family issues, but I will be at the Jan 15th rally. This rally DID receive media attention - most of the local newspapers and TV stations did a short bit of coverage.

 

There was some retarded shit going on at this rally.. These guys showed up (WA Light Foot Militia) and apparently took up a defensive perimeter around the crowd which made a lot of people nervous.. Sorry I have no issue with owning gear and training with it, but there's a time and a place to act mall ninja (you'll notice the guy in the rear actually has a MALL NINJA chest patch), and this isn't it. Guy on another forum I'm on was there, and said these guys were wearing FRS radios and were actively chatting as if they expected something to go down.

 

 

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apparently they're real pros

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9HFmCb1vh4

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