Jump to content

Recommended Posts

For the record. I am not here to argue with anyone .

I am here to help you see the truth. It is my mission I have taken on in life.

I am dedicated to helping those that have been misled into a one-track way of thinking.

I am trying to get you out of your shell, per say. I'm here for your well being as well as the future of mankind.

It is obvious mankind cannot continue on this destructive course much longer without complete annihilation.

The invention of God and religion has set a course for disaster from the beginning. We must rise above this

way of Fideism thinking. If you vale the life of your children's children you must act now.

Some of you are very pompous in your Christian values, which I understand, you have

been brainwashed into a simple way of thinking and your mind won't let you expand

upon traditional values handed down from the ages. I am here to help you get past this, but you

must want to. And once you do you will experience a whole new freedom and expansion

of your mind you would have otherwise never imagined.

I am still learning how to be a teacher so forgive me for my outbursts and slander.

It is a heavy undertaking I have chosen as 95% of the populous is against it.

But in due time we shall grow in numbers and one day eventually rid the world

of the destructive nature that is Religion of a God. Then we shall all live in peace as was intended.

 Do not fear what you do not know, I am here for you brothers.

Edited by SHOTGUN MESSIAH
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 144
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Hey Everybody:   I want to submit something I propose is real, but very subtle. Very subtle. Yet it's part of the big picture.    We've all heard how good can come from evil, but I have also seen

I think SM will stand with me in saying, the promises of doom or salvation via someone elses saviour is neither helpful or scary.  We think its silly at best, and really annoying at worst.  At times o

Freedom OF religion, can only exist when there is freedom FROM religion.   Believe whatever you want, within the bounds of NOT forcing any of your BULLSHIT on me, and I will not force my BULLSHIT on

Posted Images

I am with you SM. The difficulty is swimming against the flow. The flow that started when children ask questions that adults have no logical answers for and just make it up. The part of the child brain that WANTS to believe in magic and the supernatural will eventually hold on to those beliefs later in life. It is a vicious circle, one of  closed thinking. I do not, however, pity any one for their beliefs. I suspect that in the dead of night, when all else has faded away, no one of religious leaning can honestly believe in the fairy tale. The logic is faulty as so many emotion based arguments are.

 

I attended a funeral for a family member at a rather basic Baptist church. (in the sticks)5 different "lay preachers" spoke. 5 different descriptions of the so called resurrection, afterlife.

 

I come from a family that was into the church. I also was told not to question things, have faith and believe. In what?

 

Live each day as if it is your last, ever. No do overs or afterlife. This is it. Make the best of it.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

For the record. I am not here to argue with anyone .

I am here to help you see the truth. It is my mission I have taken on in life.

I am dedicated to helping those that have been misled into a one-track way of thinking.

I am trying to get you out of your shell, per say. I'm here for your well being as well as the future of mankind.

It is obvious mankind cannot continue on this destructive course much longer without complete annihilation.

The invention of God and religion has set a course for disaster from the beginning. We must rise above this

way of Fideism thinking. If you vale the life of your children's children you must act now.

Some of you are very pompous in your Christian values, which I understand, you have

been brainwashed into a simple way of thinking and your mind won't let you expand

upon traditional values handed down from the ages. I am here to help you get past this, but you

must want to. And once you do you will experience a whole new freedom and expansion

of your mind you would have otherwise never imagined.

I am still learning how to be a teacher so forgive me for my outbursts and slander.

It is a heavy undertaking I have chosen as 95% of the populous is against it.

But in due time we shall grow in numbers and one day eventually rid the world

of the destructive nature that is Religion of a God. Then we shall all live in peace as was intended.

 Do not fear what you do not know, I am here for you brothers.

Hey, we are getting somewhere.  Quoting the Bible (although incorrectly and with twisted interpretations) and trying to be almost kind in your writings seems to mean I have rubbed off on you a bit.  Good stuff -- God never stops working.  There is always Hope!

 

P.S.  "Fideism"  -- I'm impressed.  You've been workin!

Edited by Odd Man Out
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

Live each day as if it is your last, ever. No do overs or afterlife. This is it. Make the best of it.

Unfortunately and sadly for some, they will truly wish that was the case.

 

Question for you; If this is it, what stops you from choosing wrong over right?  Why not grab as much as you can, screw over everyone to get what you want as long as you can get away with it.  Why love if there is always something else to lust for.  What does "the best of it" mean to you? Why "morality"?  Please don't cop out with something like: Well, the majority of the population has come up with these rules... How did these rules come about and why do they work?  Might want to give that a bit o thought.

 

Thanks for joining in.

Link to post
Share on other sites

For the record. I am not here to argue with anyone .

I am here to help you see the truth. It is my mission I have taken on in life.

I am dedicated to helping those that have been misled into a one-track way of thinking.

I am trying to get you out of your shell, per say. I'm here for your well being as well as the future of mankind.

It is obvious mankind cannot continue on this destructive course much longer without complete annihilation.

The invention of God and religion has set a course for disaster from the beginning. We must rise above this

way of Fideism thinking. If you vale the life of your children's children you must act now.

Some of you are very pompous in your Christian values, which I understand, you have

been brainwashed into a simple way of thinking and your mind won't let you expand

upon traditional values handed down from the ages. I am here to help you get past this, but you

must want to. And once you do you will experience a whole new freedom and expansion

of your mind you would have otherwise never imagined.

I am still learning how to be a teacher so forgive me for my outbursts and slander.

It is a heavy undertaking I have chosen as 95% of the populous is against it.

But in due time we shall grow in numbers and one day eventually rid the world

of the destructive nature that is Religion of a God. Then we shall all live in peace as was intended.

 Do not fear what you do not know, I am here for you brothers.

Here is the consequence....if you move people to reject God and you are correct there is no harm.but really no gain either.

 

If you are wrong you damn otherwise innocent  souls that you convinced to hell .

 

believe it or not..you are a soldier in a spiritual battle....but you have chosen to proselytize for eternal damnation. 

 

just sayin 

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

 

Live each day as if it is your last, ever. No do overs or afterlife. This is it. Make the best of it.

Unfortunately and sadly for some, they will truly wish that was the case.

 

Question for you; If this is it, what stops you from choosing wrong over right?  Why not grab as much as you can, screw over everyone to get what you want as long as you can get away with it.  Why love if there is always something else to lust for.  What does "the best of it" mean to you? Why "morality"?  Please don't cop out with something like: Well, the majority of the population has come up with these rules... How did these rules come about and why do they work?  Might want to give that a bit o thought.

 

Thanks for joining in.

 

Millions of years ago, evolution set the rules for choices. Good choices = survival. Until the Sun swells to a red giant and consumes the inner planets. That event is sure to happen.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In our home we do not do Cable or on Air programming. Why pay to be programmed? Why not get paid to be programmed?

 

Anyway, the Paris incident goes to show what happens when the population is not armed and the criminals are.

 

To hell with any fanatics no matter what re-LEIGON they belong to.

 

G-d bless America, where the terrorists will be skull fucked by a hunter with a rifle behind every blade of grass.

 

Behind every blade of grass.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

In our home we do not do Cable or on Air programming. Why pay to be programmed? Why not get paid to be programmed?

 

Anyway, the Paris incident goes to show what happens when the population is not armed and the criminals are.

 

To hell with any fanatics no matter what re-LEIGON they belong to.

 

God bless America, where the terrorists will be skull fucked by a hunter with a rifle behind every blade of grass.

 

Behind every blade of grass.

Fixed it for you -- that is unless you were being PC for those that might be offended by the word "God"

P.S.

 

"God bless America"  Amen to that.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

 

 

Live each day as if it is your last, ever. No do overs or afterlife. This is it. Make the best of it.

Unfortunately and sadly for some, they will truly wish that was the case.

 

Question for you; If this is it, what stops you from choosing wrong over right?  Why not grab as much as you can, screw over everyone to get what you want as long as you can get away with it.  Why love if there is always something else to lust for.  What does "the best of it" mean to you? Why "morality"?  Please don't cop out with something like: Well, the majority of the population has come up with these rules... How did these rules come about and why do they work?  Might want to give that a bit o thought.

 

Thanks for joining in.

 

Millions of years ago, evolution set the rules for choices. Good choices = survival. Until the Sun swells to a red giant and consumes the inner planets. That event is sure to happen.

 

"Evolution set the rules..." ???  Very weak sauce indeed.  If Evolution sets the rules and evolution decreed that dinosaurs lived on the Earth for 165 million years as the dominant life form (according to science and you know that is truth...) why, after they were wiped out did they not come back and resume being the dominant life form on the planet?  Why did evolution change it's mind and decree that small defenseless primates that lived in trees should run the planet?  Seems like it would take more faith than I have to believe that one...

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

In our home we do not do Cable or on Air programming. Why pay to be programmed? Why not get paid to be programmed?

 

Anyway, the Paris incident goes to show what happens when the population is not armed and the criminals are.

 

To hell with any fanatics no matter what re-LEIGON they belong to.

 

God bless America, where the terrorists will be skull fucked by a hunter with a rifle behind every blade of grass.

 

Behind every blade of grass.

Fixed it for you -- that is unless you were being PC for those that might be offended by the word "God"

P.S.

 

"God bless America"  Amen to that.

 

It's just an old school respect thing. He is so awesome that you don't dare write his name on mortal symbols. You writing it does not offend me.

Link to post
Share on other sites

One said "there is no atheist in the foxhole".

 

I've served shoulder-to-shoulder with guys from all walks of life, cultural heritages and both sides of believing. 

From foxholes and through the shitholes. From the slot in the "stick" and "knees in the breeze", through "embracing the suck" and more: NEVER felt my back less protected by those with lesser or no believes. We all took The Oath. The only Oath, with no exempts or exclusions.

 

I'll ditch the pompous spiel about the danger to entire civilized world, even though I believe there is one, and it's "clear and present".

 

This is 'Merica! A "quilt", a "melting pot", an "alloy", whatever the labeling reference there is. But the bottom line is: we're in together. 

Will we band and stay together, REGARDLESS of our religion, heritage, race, or political affiliation, and take on the mortal enemy face-on as One Nation?

I believe so.

You can surely count on me.

 

God Bless America!

Edited by Sgt. Raven
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

I dont really give a fuck what people believe.

Liar! bet you'd put a round in a person who believed their religion told them to kill you -- that Imho is giving an eff...

 

 

 

I understand what you're saying -- just having fun...

 

Edited by Odd Man Out
Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

 

 

 

Live each day as if it is your last, ever. No do overs or afterlife. This is it. Make the best of it.

Unfortunately and sadly for some, they will truly wish that was the case.

 

Question for you; If this is it, what stops you from choosing wrong over right?  Why not grab as much as you can, screw over everyone to get what you want as long as you can get away with it.  Why love if there is always something else to lust for.  What does "the best of it" mean to you? Why "morality"?  Please don't cop out with something like: Well, the majority of the population has come up with these rules... How did these rules come about and why do they work?  Might want to give that a bit o thought.

 

Thanks for joining in.

 

Millions of years ago, evolution set the rules for choices. Good choices = survival. Until the Sun swells to a red giant and consumes the inner planets. That event is sure to happen.

 

"Evolution set the rules..." ???  Very weak sauce indeed.  If Evolution sets the rules and evolution decreed that dinosaurs lived on the Earth for 165 million years as the dominant life form (according to science and you know that is truth...) why, after they were wiped out did they not come back and resume being the dominant life form on the planet?  Why did evolution change it's mind and decree that small defenseless primates that lived in trees should run the planet?  Seems like it would take more faith than I have to believe that one...

 

Not weak sauce, not one bit.  Fact is, the largest sect of christianity in the world, catholicism, eventually buckled under the weight of the evolutionary reality of life on this planet.   Links between fossil records, modern biology, and reliable carbon dating have effectively destroyed the trite theories of creation and adam and eve.

 

If everyone accepted reality and let go of their literal interpretations of myth, maybe fundamentalism could go by the wayside.  After all, its the literal interpretations that make people fanatics, believing everything in their book of choice, and never even trying to prove it, makes for dangerous ideologies.  Ask a terrorist, they believe their version hook, line and sinker.  

 

Wholesale refusal of theism is a better to way to fight fundamentalism, since this 'us vs them' shit is clearly not working.  

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I dont really give a fuck what people believe.

 

Liar! bet you'd put a round in a person who believed their religion told them to kill you -- that Imho is giving an eff...

 

 

 

I understand what you're saying -- just having fun...

I call that self preservation. I'd do that to anyone trying to take my life, not just hajj. Lol.

Link to post
Share on other sites

The 2 things that the human mind cannot comprehend is beginning and end. In recent times, Science has helped explain these two things

a bit more. We can watch someone being born and we can watch them die. But we ask ourselves where did it all start and what happens when

it is done. These 2 things are still a mystery to many, and too much of an undertaking to understand on their own. Enter---a God. The fact that they have 

this God figure is comforting for them and gives them closure on what the oppressed part of their mind can not process. I understand this but I do not

accept it. To me, it is the easy way out. If the great minds of our time bought into this way of thinking, we would not be as advanced as we are today.

A good question to ask oneself is…….If God created everything, then what created God? Here inlays the answer to set you on a course of unbiased

FREE THINKING. Just keep pondering that question over and over and don't settle on your first answer. This will help to exercise the part of your mind that has been oppressed by centuries old practices. Once you start working this part of your brain it will keep growing and give you a whole new perspective

that is not only positive but intriguing and satisfying on levels you never new existed.  Think of it as something you can do for yourself as well as bettering the future of mankind. I f you really think about it , we are stuck in a rut practicing and believing in scriptures that are centuries old in thought and reason.

You owe it to yourself and future generations to expand the thought process for the good of all mankind. 

Stay strong and brave on your road to FREE THINKING.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Funny Shotty, you are just following God's playbook, you ought to read it -- fascinating...

 

Well, one of us is espousing the wrong worldview, that's for sure.  I leave it to those that read this thread to make up their minds.

 

A last (maybe) question for you; Why do you think society is degrading or going to hell in a hand basket?  What is the reason for our nation's morale decline?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Society has always been a balance of just enough good to continue, but bad enough to cause alot of death and suffering.  We are not going to hell in a handbasket and society is not degrading, it has always been fucked up, yet never completely, everywhere.  The media, plays a huge part to sensationalize every little thing, and makes it really look like humanity is going down the drain.  However, theres no reason to believe that the bad outweighs the good, regardless what we believe to be true.

 

  For every evil act we see there are 1000 good acts that we dont.   Individuals do many good deeds, many times, every day,  and it almost never makes the headlines.  The second evil is reported, its plastered everywhere and after a while, its thought to be the norm.  

 

The good is simply out of sight and out of mind.  And when the combined decency of humanity is barely ever reported, and always steam rolled by evil events, any person who does not have a deeper understanding of reality believes its going to hell in a handbasket.

 

The only reason our country looks to be morally declining, is our realization of failed law and order, its resemblance of complete socialism, and its corruption inducing political process.  Our image reflects the actions of our rulers, and our rulers do not represent our true wishes.  Therefore, our reflection as a nation is quite distorted indeed.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

OK. NDE. Any of those who have the event Muslim? Has any one come back with a glimpse of the Virgin Horde? It really is comical when some one clams up with the "I'll pray for you" response when the facts start to pile up and questions outnumber the answers. Much like the broccoli seed, once planted, free thinking is at the mercy of the farmer. Religion has always ripped the seedling  from the ground lest control be lost. Islam has this one down.

 

Remember how the pope joined in on the redistribution of wealth bandwagon? Is the catholic church going to redistribute it's billions? I think not.

Link to post
Share on other sites

3 tangos wiped out in Belgium. Possibly Paris-style attack prevented by counter-terrorism forces. 
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/15/3-reportedly-killed-in-counter-terrorism-raid-in-belgium/


And then...

5 Yemeni tangos were released from GITMO today: 
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article6576435.html sign22.gif

 

And...

 

Duke University's decision to sound Muslim call to prayer riles some

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/15/us/duke-call-to-prayer/

 

(CNN)The Muslim call to prayer will sound from a bell tower at North Carolina's Duke University -- but not everyone is considering the chant music to the ear.

Starting Friday, the Duke Muslim Students Association will chant the call, or adhan, from the Duke Chapel bell tower. The adhan signals the beginning of the weekly prayer service. It's ubiquitous in Muslim countries the world over; not so in the Carolina piedmont.

The call will last three minutes and will be only "moderately amplified," the school said.

Duke, which got its start in the late 19th century with help from the Methodist church, says the move "represents a larger commitment to religious pluralism that is at the heart of Duke's mission."

"It connects the university to national trends in religious accommodation," said Christy Lohr Sapp, the chapel's associate dean for religious life.

Various Christian denominations hold prayer and worship services in the chapel. The school also has spaces dedicated on campus for various faiths, including Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

"Just as the bells announce chapel worship in the building on Sundays, the adhan announces Muslim prayers on Fridays," the chapel said.

 

Edited by Sgt. Raven
Link to post
Share on other sites

There is a heated discussion brewing on another forum, primarily about how "peaceful" the "Religion of Peace" is.

Just got this and trying to wrap my head around...

 

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm

 

 

Have you heard that Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence?  That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone.  Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

 

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number.  However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this.  In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined.

 

The following polls convey what Muslims say are their attitudes toward terrorism, al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, violence in defense of Islam, Sharia, honor killings, and matters concerning assimilation in Western society.  The results are all the more astonishing because most of the polls were conducted by organizations with an obvious interest in "discovering" agreeable statistics that downplay any cause for concern.

Just a tip of the long list:

 

 

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans: 
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Christians = Hypocrites…especially American Christians.

Onward to FREE THINKING my brothers.Free yourselves from this state of hypocrisy and Fideism.

Were you raised up in the greatest homosexual child sex slave ring ever conceived?
Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Chatbox

    Load More
    You don't have permission to chat.
×
×
  • Create New...