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#1 compshootfl

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 08:47 AM

I saw a video on this, it looks very interesting and it's made in the USA.

 

It's made by UTAS and will be called the UT-X.  It is AR based as far as controls and such.

 

It currently has  2 round, 7 round and 10 round mags available.

 

They say the RETAIL price point will be $995.

 

Video Link: UT-X

 

 

 

Here we go again !!!

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 09:52 AM

yes i just saw this..looks like MKA 1919 will have some competition



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 09:58 AM

Higher price point...but if the platform is more reliable and better designed, it may be worth it.

 

The price point will definately be competitive with the Vepr 12.

 

Parts availability will be the big seller on this one....US made.



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:37 AM

Looks like an MKA magazine..

 

I'm curious what the magazine pricing will be. 

 

I hope they improved the build quality over the MKA because honestly that has some really rough work on it.


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:45 AM

true ..once parts are available there could be  a good chance that it will take off ....lets just hope they get rid of that shark fin on the top..or make an option for it to be removed..And also make a all aluminum lower



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 11:45 AM

I saw it at SHOT show.  They actually have two models  The more interesting one is the XTR-12  which is basically an AR10 configuration.  I'd be more interested in that one.   Both models are still unicorn guns.  Due sometime 2015.  Believe it when I see it.  I saw a nice one at Rhino Arms at SHOT last year 12 gauge upper compatible with  DPMS AR10 lower.  You could have .308 or 12g by just changing the upper.   I was pretty excited about it. Looked like a well designed gun.  It was due mid- 2014.   They apparently gave up or postponed because I called Dec. 2014 and it was still not available -- and it wasn't at their booth this year.



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 01:00 PM

Wtf is on the top of that thing?

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Posted 27 January 2015 - 01:06 PM

It looks like a full length rail riser. It could also just be a sight rail like many pump guns have.

Its a vent rib.

 

I would imagine that is going to be optional as its looks to be separate from the rail below it.

 



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 01:44 PM

He said in the video "it is removeable"  so you can add optics & accessories.

 

My guess is there are different models available with different options.

 

I read somewhere that the mags were plastic.



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 02:26 PM

The magazine uppers look like metal in the video and in the photo in the OP there is what looks like an MKA magazine with a poly lower sitting on a stack of papers.



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Posted 27 January 2015 - 02:52 PM

I just got off the phone with UTAS, here is what they said:

 

1) Lower / Upper made from Magnesium alloy (except barrel).

 

2) XTR will come out 1st (spring 2015) this is identicle to the UT-X except it is right hand only.

 

3) UT-X will come out summer 2015 and this is the ambidextrious model.

 

4) Mags are made of Magnesium alloy also.

 

5) Fin on barrel is removeable.

 

Hope this helps with any questions.


Edited by compshootfl, 28 January 2015 - 07:47 AM.


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 03:13 PM

Nice to see an American company is finally making one. 

No more foreign guns for me ever again….screw the 922r bullshit.


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 04:01 PM

What ive seen from the Utas 15 doesnt really entice me to run out and spend $1k on this thing.

 

I'll give them a year or so to figure out the kinks and come out with accessories and mags before I consider buying one, but hopefully by that time Rhino will have theirs out as well (and maybe there will even a 100% US made FB smile.png)


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Posted 27 January 2015 - 10:49 PM

How long before ATF decides to reclassify it as a DD?

No reason why the same reasoning that applied to the shit that got reclassified in the 90's can't apply to this.


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Posted 31 January 2016 - 04:46 PM

Soon might have been a slight understatement since it's been a year and still not available...



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Posted 31 January 2016 - 09:01 PM

We have several on order. I talked to them about a month ago. I was told - 

They are waiting on 2 parts that are made in Turkey.

The Borders & Customs has the shipment on extensive review, which they can take up to 6 months to approve, they can deny for any/no reason, you appeal, another 6 month clock starts. Nothing anyone can do about it.

 

I KNOW , we have some MKA replacement/warranty parts that are in the same extensive review. I was told about 3 weeks ago, they were approved, it may take 6-8 weeks to be released.anger.gif

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Posted 31 January 2016 - 09:10 PM

What with the SM SKO, FP TAC12A1, Chaos WOC-12 (eventually), and the RWC/Kalash USA S12 this is kinda already overmatched. Sure, options are nice, but US built trumps the imports. As more and more appear, I have a feeling most of the imports will fall by the wayside due to all the cost and trouble it takes to get them.
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Posted 01 February 2016 - 12:25 AM

In the very first post they indicated these were made in the USA.

 

Now we hear they are waiting on parts from Turkey?



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Posted 01 February 2016 - 10:27 PM

In the very first post they indicated these were made in the USA.

 

Now we hear they are waiting on parts from Turkey?

Made in USA tag doesn't mean much, check where the parts for a "Made in USA" vehicle come from.

 

Also another gun mfg has a "Made in USA" gun that just has the final finish applied here



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Posted 10 February 2016 - 06:44 PM

In the very first post they indicated these were made in the USA.

 

Now we hear they are waiting on parts from Turkey?

 

Good to know. It's off my list :)



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 09:29 AM

Now hold on before you take it off you list.

STI has some 1911s that were made in the RIA plant in the Philippines to STIs specs. Then sent here to be inspected/ QC and fit an finished by STI techs.

We have everything from STI Trojan, STI 40 Edge 2011, and STI Spartan.

All of theses get hundreds of rounds through them any day at the range with no issues. The Spartan was a hot ticket. The company accomplished what they wanted. They proved that quality parts and firearms don't need to come from the USA as long as the engineering and QC is to standard. There are a ton of foreign manufactures that produce the 1911 even for their forces. I even have some ATI models that I use to try out my own mods on.

The AR /AK platform is becoming about the same situation where it will be produced all over the world. 



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 09:39 AM

I have decided to move from a Saiga 12 to the UTAS XTR-12 for my competitive skeet shooting. So far the only mod I see I have to make id blocking the mags to 2 rounds and extending the barrel out to 26". That is a far cry from what needed to happen with the Saiga. It was an absolute bear to get the Saiga to shoot my specific #9 reload reliably. However it happened and I can score 96-97 game after game with it. The hard part is when I decide to make a day of it and play 5-6 games that Saiga gets real heavy. 

The XTR being piston driven should yield a comfortable shoot and be easy to tune. The only real bump in the road I can see is going to be the real 2 round mags as it seems everyone wants to stack as many rounds in one mag as possible. LOL seems crazy to me.

The Rambo wannabes should try to 3-5 second rush and return fire with that thing. Just nonsense.



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Posted 04 June 2016 - 11:45 PM

Are these out yet?



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Posted 05 June 2016 - 12:32 AM

Now hold on before you take it off you list.

STI has some 1911s that were made in the RIA plant in the Philippines to STIs specs. Then sent here to be inspected/ QC and fit an finished by STI techs.

We have everything from STI Trojan, STI 40 Edge 2011, and STI Spartan.

All of theses get hundreds of rounds through them any day at the range with no issues. The Spartan was a hot ticket. The company accomplished what they wanted. They proved that quality parts and firearms don't need to come from the USA as long as the engineering and QC is to standard. There are a ton of foreign manufactures that produce the 1911 even for their forces. I even have some ATI models that I use to try out my own mods on.

The AR /AK platform is becoming about the same situation where it will be produced all over the world. 

 

 

My Akdals dont really have any issues either, but I fear the day something on them will break and I have to wait for months to get a replacement part, if I can get it at all. Not going to put myself in that position again.

The other reason being Turkish quality, or the lack there of and the seemingly non-existent QE. Sure, an XTR may run, but then something breaks and replacement parts dont really fit because tooling or subcontractor was changed.

Just look at the Akdal mag situation....

 

And comparing it to guns made in the Philippines is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison. I have no issues buying guns that are made in the Czech republic, Austria, Germany or Belgium, which all make guns and send to the US.

 

It just aint worth the risk and (potential) headaches to buy Turkish for me. YMMV


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Posted 06 June 2016 - 08:09 PM

I have decided to move from a Saiga 12 to the UTAS XTR-12 for my competitive skeet shooting. So far the only mod I see I have to make id blocking the mags to 2 rounds and extending the barrel out to 26". That is a far cry from what needed to happen with the Saiga. It was an absolute bear to get the Saiga to shoot my specific #9 reload reliably. However it happened and I can score 96-97 game after game with it. The hard part is when I decide to make a day of it and play 5-6 games that Saiga gets real heavy. 

The XTR being piston driven should yield a comfortable shoot and be easy to tune. The only real bump in the road I can see is going to be the real 2 round mags as it seems everyone wants to stack as many rounds in one mag as possible. LOL seems crazy to me.

The Rambo wannabes should try to 3-5 second rush and return fire with that thing. Just nonsense.

 

For you, you'd think it would be easier to take something that was dead nuts reliable like an 1100 and just put a tactical style stock on it. You're not really using the box mag part that makes these guns attractive, and if this mag is anything like mine then loading it for trap is a pita, I was never able to put two into the gun without pulling the mag out. If the 1100 is too heavy for you that damn versamax thing feel as light as my plastic fantastic ar-12.



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Posted 07 June 2016 - 03:16 PM

T&N posted some videos of these.

 

They have them in stock ~1100.00 or so if I remember correctly



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Posted 08 June 2016 - 06:48 AM

I did try out a pretty nice semiauto out at the range. It didnt have the ergo of what I'm use to but I just wasnt impressed. My friends think I might be a little crazy because I have a nack for taking things out of the stock form and using them for "Other than intended". 

Maybe its that something must be elegant and interesting for it to hold my attention. Then its new capabilities become the norm so run of the mill items have no appeal anymore. Hmmm, Oh well I'm sure the XTR will be fine in the end. If it doesn't start out great I will put some gunsmith magic on it and it will be fine.






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