Nailbomb 10,221 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Whats the closest to scratch built you guys have done? The idea of making something out of more raw material seems appealing to me. This guys videos have become addicting to me lately due to the simple tool and skillset required. Hell Most of what he uses I either have or have something better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5RaqGfLe2I Love to hear from the peanut crowd on this one, so chime in! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,742 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Sent you a PM. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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storm6490 2,768 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I made a .22 pen gun while abroad. Worked good twice and then it all went down hill. Other than that, I have never made a firearm from scratch. The flare launchers posted above look pretty fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,742 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I made a .22 pen gun while abroad. Worked good twice and then it all went down hill. Other than that, I have never made a firearm from scratch. The flare launchers posted above look pretty fun! Those look more like single shot scatter guns. The thing with this type of weapon is the reloading time. It's practical to have several simple, single use, zip guns strategically place. For a repeater, the easiest is a pipe that fits the cartridge and slides inside another pipe with a screw threaded through the cap as a firing pin. Think slam-fire. No stock or sights needed. I've see zip pistols made out of wood, radio antenna sections, and rubber bands to actuate the plunger/firing pin, too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Redrum4u 125 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I believe this picture was from a gun buyback program. This fella whipped up these guns and got like 100 each 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 far as I'd go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,366 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Yep made a few spud guns as a teen One of the bigger ones we made, we determined it would make it to the other side of a small lake by firing from an elevated spot on a trail. There was a housing development there. you figure out the rest. not proud of some of the stuff I did in those days, I would whoop my son's ass if he did some of the things I did. Edited April 9, 2015 by mancat 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I did spud guns plus a pieces of foam as a gas seal to shoot some ~2" dia rocks. they went a lot further than the taters. The recoil impulse was fun too. There is a company which sells lathe rifled pipe if you want to do a better potato gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Soon as we get resettled IF we ever sell this millstone of a house I will have a metal shop and those types of projects will be enjoyed god willing and the creek dont rise. Collecting the info and mapping things out now, leaning more towards a Sten type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Use some thing with common mags, ammo and cheap barrells. Probably want to start low pressure first too. Mauybe 45 ACP and grease gun mas as a start? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 This is why we can NEVER be disarmed. It's far too easy to make a firearm. Powder and ball are easy too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Use some thing with common mags, ammo and cheap barrells. Probably want to start low pressure first too. Mauybe 45 ACP and grease gun mas as a start? Have the plans put away but from memory 9mm uzi mags semi. Can make the mags also but heh those used to be fairly cheap and common. 45 aint bad at all, lower pressure IIRC. Wont be any rifling on the first one since I doubt it will be more than a learning project. Hell if the damned thing works its a success. Edited April 9, 2015 by Rhodes1968 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Why not use a blank or surplus barrel? If you are going to put in the work, may as well make something good. And yes, that's why I said 45. It is lower pressure than 9mm, by a fair amount. Hit up "smartbomb" here, or ginsboy 223on youtube. They've done a lot of interesting 1 of a kind guns from near scratch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I like your point. Will keep it in mind thanks. Its still a long ways out at present so lots of time to think things through. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I believe this picture was from a gun buyback program. This fella whipped up these guns and got like 100 each Here's a guy who made one like that for a buy back event. . https://youtu.be/yXjnb55aAwM Edited April 10, 2015 by Spartacus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Made several .22 zip guns from car antennas and old TV tuners. Did a couple match lock type muskets from pipe and home made black powder. Gave that stuff up when I turned 14 and got a full time job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The case for not using any ready made firearm parts in self made firearm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ71Ujs3oY0 Looking back at my notes from several years ago when the idea first gained my interest that is exactly what I had written. Still pumped on the idea more so now than ever, to take a pile of scrap and turn it into a working firearm damn near causes wood. Yeah Im weird so what else is new. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 His thinking at 2:30 on is pretty confused. Of course he designed a firearm. That's only a problem if he re-designed something legal into something illegal. He designed a pistol which cannot be arguably construed as anything else. No problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 "His thinking at 2:30 on is pretty confused" Yeah but so is the law and and it's interpretations... heh who aint confused. Pretty sure that's what BATFE was aiming to create. Maybe by the time this happens things will be more sorted out I dont mind either way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 My point is that nothing that guy said was any argument against using existing parts. If I were building any firearm from scratch, i'd still use a surplus or blank barrel and get one of the magwell kits they make for it. Maybe a soumi magwell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 First year in junior high my first access to a metal lathe 13 years old, made cap and ball Philadelphia derringers from pictures in a firearms history book. .375 bore shot ball bearings with black powder used greenie stickum caps as the cap. Made bunches of cannons from .250 bore to one inch bore. high school metal shop I made more motorcycle parts than gun parts. But had first access to a mill so I built a couple bolt action 22 cal smooth bore single shot pistols, pretty simple but functional years later I built a mac 10 from stainless steel, copied an original used factory barrel and bolt. now With CNC equipment and an 07 manufacturing licence I manufacture AR15s and TAC-12 shotguns 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 I built this from a salvaged Tantal receiver, Polish, Bulgarian, Russian, U.S., HK, and fabricated parts and the damn thing shoots really well. I also did a psudo spud/tennis ball cannon when I was younger that used Passload nail gun fuel-the stuff really has some kick behind it and doesn't gum things up like hairspray. I watched a program that featured 1911 style 45's being fabricated in shacks on some island not too long ago and was shocked at the final product these guys were able to produce with fairly primitive hand tools. Where there's a will there's a way.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) My point is that nothing that guy said was any argument against using existing parts. If I were building any firearm from scratch, i'd still use a surplus or blank barrel and get one of the magwell kits they make for it. Maybe a soumi magwell. Yeah I see what you mean, think he was expressing some concern that the BATFE plays very dirty and though he wants to publish what he does but gets that creepy feeling thinking it could land him in jail. In these times I wouldnt presume to tell him otherwise. Since its not something I plan to make for necessity, under current conditions, it just seemed like an enjoyable skill set I might be able to pass on if nothing else. Edited April 12, 2015 by Rhodes1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Found a link for the show on Youtube -Ghost Guns. Well worth watching to see how black market guns are made from scratch and they sure don't look cobbed together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjJdSlgF1RY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 And here is a perfect example of what NOT to do with your ghost guns. http://news.yahoo.com/feds-charge-8-california-distributing-homemade-guns-003143511.html;_ylt=AwrXgiP1ACFWCSIAdiyZmolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByM3V1YTVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg-- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 And here is a perfect example of what NOT to do with your ghost guns. http://news.yahoo.com/feds-charge-8-california-distributing-homemade-guns-003143511.html;_ylt=AwrXgiP1ACFWCSIAdiyZmolQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByM3V1YTVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMzBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg-- But it's a primary source of illegal guns on the street. The article says so. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Guys Let's not forget the genious works of Boris, who is an awesome dude and even a member here. (Though he mostly hangs out on some NE shooter's forum.) In which he made all bottles over a certain size illegal post ban hi-caps in MA.... http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/277900-MUST-READ-Hi-cap-mags-in-every-recycle-bin-We-are-all-felons-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,366 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I built this from a salvaged Tantal receiver, Polish, Bulgarian, Russian, U.S., HK, and fabricated parts and the damn thing shoots really well. I also did a psudo spud/tennis ball cannon when I was younger that used Passload nail gun fuel-the stuff really has some kick behind it and doesn't gum things up like hairspray. I watched a program that featured 1911 style 45's being fabricated in shacks on some island not too long ago and was shocked at the final product these guys were able to produce with fairly primitive hand tools. Where there's a will there's a way.... what's the story on the extra front rivet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 The receiver was originally cut for a 2XTM 9mm build. I Tig welded a repair section in and just for shits n grins, installed a stiffener plate. The stiffener plate is spot welded to the receiver in several locations, but I thought "what the hell" and dropped the two end rivits in just for franken gun looks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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