RedRhino 75 Posted April 15, 2015 Report Share Posted April 15, 2015 Hey everybody, I've been looking at some different front sight post options, and found some cool stuff. I was wondering if y'all have used or are running any of these. Something else? Here are a couple that really pique my interest. First one is a 'KNS front sight post' the second a Blitzkrieg something or other. The latter says it's for an ar , Idk if it works for ak too(noob)? Anyway let me know where y'all stand on this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nothing beats a post and peep. Smaller post and smaller peep for more precision. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nothing beats a post and peep. Smaller post and smaller peep for more precision. yup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 That first one would be downright awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Post and aperture or dual aperture (which isnt seen often but works well) is the only way to go. This stuff is just flash. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Matt at C&S had the first one on his shotty and it was fine for that application but the crosshairs are pretty large and I wouldn't use them for a rifle at distance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) That first one would be downright awful. I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. Edited April 16, 2015 by RedRhino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Matt at C&S had the first one on his shotty and it was fine for that application but the crosshairs are pretty large and I wouldn't use them for a rifle at distance. Ok, I think that answered the question I just posted, the crosshairs covering the target is the problem. That's kinda what I figured. I had also thought that it might work better on a shotgun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 That first one would be downright awful.I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. Have the krebs on one AK works well nice improvement over the blade sight. The mojo may have a problem with recoil tossing the sight up had it on one rifle didnt try another so it may just have been a fluke with that particular sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 Post and aperture or dual aperture (which isnt seen often but works well) is the only way to go. This stuff is just flash. Do you have any personal experience with dual aperture sights on an ak platform? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted April 23, 2015 Report Share Posted April 23, 2015 That first one would be downright awful.I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. For the same reason 6500 said. That crosshair would be covering a massive portion of the target. There's no way you could get a consistent POA on it at even 50 yards, let alone 100-200. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 That first one would be downright awful.I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. For the same reason 6500 said. That crosshair would be covering a massive portion of the target. There's no way you could get a consistent POA on it at even 50 yards, let alone 100-200. Dang W8 took yah long enough haha nah, but I realized why shortly after asking why. Thank you though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 On a shotgun you just need a bead. The length of the sight makes all the difference in the world when it comes to precision. I'm a big fan of the ghost ring and a nice bead on post for target training but no way in hell would I slow it down and put sights on a scatter gun. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 That first one would be downright awful.I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. Here is the sight picture with Krebs. They work pretty well for me, especially for turkeys, but I've done quite a bit of clay and wing shooting with them, too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Forgive me for my ignorance here. But when using such a setup, on a rifle specifically...how do you aim? I know , I must sound like an idiot. But I have no experience using an aperture sight. So would I be trying to center the "ring" of the front sight blades in the ring of the rear sight? How does it work in the setup pictured above? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Well, that's on a S-12, so the top of the post centered in the aperture acts the same as a bead. Basically, it's the same with a rifle, except the aperture is about the same diameter as the width of the post. That makes the sights very accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Well, that's on a S-12, so the top of the post centered in the aperture acts the same as a bead. Basically, it's the same with a rifle, except the aperture is about the same diameter as the width of the post. That makes the sights very accurate. ooooh ok. It threw me off when I saw that picture, I didn't realize there was a difference in aperture size in the s12, and rifle sights. Thank you for clearing that up for me.I did realize it was an S-12 when he said he was shooting turkeys and clay/wing shooting though. So I got that goin for me. Haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 That first one would be downright awful.I thought maybe that one and a rear peep would be ok, but please elaborate as to what makes this a bad choice. Also when going with post and aperture, is it necessary to have the rear sight mounted closer to your eye, or does the standard sight position work best? How about mojo, good choice? Edit: On second thought, Krebs looks like it may be a better choice. Here is the sight picture with Krebs. They work pretty well for me, especially for turkeys, but I've done quite a bit of clay and wing shooting with them, too. Nice photography. That's hard to do! Forgive me for my ignorance here. But when using such a setup, on a rifle specifically...how do you aim? I know , I must sound like an idiot. But I have no experience using an aperture sight. So would I be trying to center the "ring" of the front sight blades in the ring of the rear sight? How does it work in the setup pictured above? https://www.google.com/search?q=ar+sight+picture&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=za8-VeutJIa4oQSA-IGQAQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 That is a nice pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 (edited) Well, that's on a S-12, so the top of the post centered in the aperture acts the same as a bead. Basically, it's the same with a rifle, except the aperture is about the same diameter as the width of the post. That makes the sights very accurate.ooooh ok. It threw me off when I saw that picture, I didn't realize there was a difference in aperture size in the s12, and rifle sights. Thank you for clearing that up for me.I did realize it was an S-12 when he said he was shooting turkeys and clay/wing shooting though. So I got that goin for me. Haha Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anywhere where you were asking specifically about rifle sights, but I know Krebs was mentioned. Edited April 27, 2015 by YOT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Right, I didn't mention a rifle until after he posted the shotgun pic. I also didn't realize there were Krebs for shotguns too until then. If I'm sticking with irons I'll probably go Krebs and the original front post. But I'm also considering replacing the rear sight with one of those rails, armacon looks good because it sits nice and low, and putting a see all sight on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
So Low 2 13 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Have you checked out Tech Sights for the AK?.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRhino 75 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I did now. Honestly, looks like a lot more trouble for the same basic outcome. Is there a reason you would recommend tech sights over a rear sight replacement like Krebs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 I did now. Honestly, looks like a lot more trouble for the same basic outcome. Is there a reason you would recommend tech sights over a rear sight replacement like Krebs? The major thing is placement of the small aperture very close to the eye, for better sight alignment. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 which aperture is bigger krebs or mojo? how bad is the flip up problem with the mojo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hmm not sure which is bigger the Krebs works the Mojo didnt so well on the AK. The Tech-Sight is great for irons, really lengthens that sight radius to almost double. Use the TWS with peep on one AK use Krebs for the others. Fast sighting and they work with the brain's natural tendency to center objects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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