XD45 7,124 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/world/europe/pope-francis-in-sweeping-encyclical-calls-for-swift-action-on-climate-change.html?_r=0 Sounds to me like he's gone fully over to worshipping Gaia. See if you can read this and keep your lunch down. VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis on Thursday called for a radical transformation of politics, economics and individual lifestyles to confront environmental degradation and climate change, blending a biting critique of consumerism and irresponsible development with a plea for swift and unified global action. The vision that Francis outlined in a 184-page papal encyclical is sweeping in ambition and scope: He describes relentless exploitation and destruction of the environment and says apathy, the reckless pursuit of profits, excessive faith in technology and political shortsightedness are to blame. The most vulnerable victims, he declares, are the world’s poorest people, who are being dislocated and disregarded. Francis, the first pope from the developing world, used the encyclical — titled “Laudato Si’,” or “Praise Be to You” — to highlight the crisis posed by climate change. He places most of the blame on fossil fuels and human activity, while warning of an “unprecedented destruction of ecosystems, with serious consequence for all of us” if corrective action is not taken swiftly. Developed, industrialized countries were mostly responsible, he says, and are obligated to help poorer nations confront the crisis. “Climate change is a global problem with grave implications: environmental, social, economic, political and for the distribution of goods,” he writes. “It represents one of the principal challenges facing humanity in our day.” Edited June 19, 2015 by Darth Saigus 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 ...not to mention a Communist. I guess he doesn't believe in the Bible. It doesn't teach Communism...... Deuteronomy 5:19 “You shall not steal.” “This commandment assumes that human beings can lawfully own things that belong specifically to them. Economic systems (socialism, communism) that mandate communal ownership and deny the right to private property are therefore unjust.” Dr. R.C. Sproul’s Table Talk devotional continues… “This commandment is irrelevant unless the Lord has established a right to private property…” “The prohibition against theft assumes that wealth can be a positive good. Too often, politicians and others in our society, even professing Christians, speak as if being wealthy is inherently evil or otherwise not the best way to live.” Obama speaks of a point when someone “has earned enough money,” a point that he determines, of course. “Some believers think they are doing God’s will by voting money out of one group’s pockets in order to put it in the pockets of another group. Scripture, however, never endorses such views. In fact, some of the greatest saints in the Bible, including Abraham (Gen. 13:2) and Joseph of Arimathea (Matt. 27:57), were wealthy. It is not a sin to be rich; it is sinful only to put our hope in our wealth. (Luke 12:13-21; I Timothy 6:10) – and the poor can trust in money as much as anyone else.” “Human beings have no right to the property of others. Therefore, it is a grievous sin to steal, even when the government legally sanctions it.” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I feel bad for Christians everywhere. Your leader, while at least making an attempt to go after priest pedophiles. Has lost his marbles on backing this crap 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have to say, speaking as a Catholic. On this subject, in my not so humble opinion, the Pope is full of CRAP. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I feel bad for Christians everywhere. Your leader, while at least making an attempt to go after priest pedophiles. Has lost his marbles on backing this crap I'm not Catholic. The pope is just a man. No more. He's head of an organization that extorts money from its members, and kicks them out of the Church, and Heaven, so they say, for not contributing. Racketeer. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Respectfully and my opinion only. The Catholic Church, like any huge powerful and all controlling gang or cult, must always attempt to extend its power. Usually by any means. What the Pope may have done was calculated to increase Church short term power and control over its members. However, good Science in the long term, usually, is self correcting. Eventually when all of this man caused climate bunk is finally shot down on its own lack of scientific merit, the Catholic Church will again find that it has painted itself into a very small corner. Just me. HB of CJ (old coot) Agnostic. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I am a christian, and not a catholic. Nothing against catholics though, despite some doctrinal disagreements. However, I've been asking "Is the pope catholic?" in a non rhetorical way for at least a year. Every big institution is vulnerable to people who disagree with it taking over the management structure, be it harvard, the US school system, the state, boyscouts, a denomination. Running a big organization requires work and organization. It tends to be a thankless task. Therefore people will often give the job to anyone willing to show up and do the work. This tends to favor angry zealots who lay low and are motivated to smile and take leadership roles quietly. As near as I can tell, this guy has spent a lifetime angry at the style of the catholic church, most of its stances, and most of its policies. He's there to mock the old way, and roll in something he thinks is better. He can live like an ascetic, but he's still running a multi billion dollar organization and in no danger of poverty. Changing the superficial style of that doesn't change the reality that he has the ability to live large at a whim. Opulence lies in the ability, not the display. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I feel bad for Christians everywhere. Your leader, while at least making an attempt to go after priest pedophiles. Has lost his marbles on backing this crap I think Catholicism and Christianity are two differing things. The Pope is NOT the leader of all Christians Catholicism has a doctrine of man and places a man in the supposed position of being infallible and perfect. Christians know only one man was ever perfect . Just study what Popes have done through out history, hardly perfect or correct ,Galileo comes to mind 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 While that statement is true, I've yet to meet a single catholic who bought the doctrine of infallibility. It might be the position of the "brass", but it is not the doctrine of catholics. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I am neither and yes I know the history of papal treachery and abuse. They set Europe back a few hundred years a few different times. While killing innocents for being non believers. Nice to see the immediate distinction. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
read_the_wall 614 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) There have been some very strange popes along the way.........not a fan of the whole pope thing........ this is kinda weird ................. Edited June 19, 2015 by read_the_wall 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I used to have great respect for the catholic church, but that has waned over the years for some very good reasons. I'm a Christian, but to me the pope is just a preacher with a pointy hat. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 There have been some very strange popes along the way.........not a fan of the whole pope thing........ this is kinda weird ................. Not taking sides -- but yeah it does look a little weird. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Makc 64 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 Environmental degradation and climate change… Just when I thought all was good since Al Gore defeated the global warming! As always, anything goes in efforts to divert attention from the more obvious problems… 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 The pope punked liberals with that. I don't have time to explain it in detail, but it was a trap and they took the bait. There is more to the story. To summarize, pipe says liberal concern for the planet and disregard for human life via abortion doesn't jive. To be clear, I am not Catholic and don't give 2 hoots about a pope. I did enjoy the punking and thought it was pretty slick. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 If the libs got punked there aren't too many people who see it that way. The libs will just pick the parts of his encyclical they like and ignore the parts they don't like. If you say it's wrong to kill black youth and 99% of the time it's other black youth doing it, all the media/left will repeat is that it's wrong to kill black youth, leaving it open to assume it's only white cops that kill black youth. You can't punk the left by saying what they want to hear and "trapping" them by adding something they will ignore anyway. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted June 20, 2015 Report Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) I feel bad for Christians everywhere. Your leader, while at least making an attempt to go after priest pedophiles. Has lost his marbles on backing this crapGod is my leader! I pointed out the problems with Catholicism to my wife early on. She agreed. No need to talk to God through a priest. Edited June 20, 2015 by Sim_Player 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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XD45 7,124 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Oh my god this is awesome. The latest quote from that ole pontiff... “It makes me think of … people, managers, businessmen who call themselves Christian and they manufacture weapons. That leads to a bit a distrust, doesn’t it?” he said to applause. He also criticized those who invest in weapons industries, saying “duplicity is the currency of today … they say one thing and do another.” So there you have it folks, people who make weapons cannot be Christians. Who was it that said, "And whoever has no sword, he is to sell his cloak and buy one."? I can't recall... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/robert-farago/pope-weapons-manufacturers-cant-call-themselves-christians/ Edited June 22, 2015 by Darth Saigus 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 The vatican is the richest private institution on the planet. They have and control billions of dollars, and have investments all over the corporate world. I would just about guarantee some of those monies are in businesses that manufacture arms. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 And still asking patrons to tithe 10% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 The Pope does not speak for me, nor do I equate Christianity with what he has to say. As already so eloquently stated, I do not need a human intermediary between me and God Amighty. Jesus Christ has filled that role and the veil of the temple has already been torn. That said, it both saddens me and excites me to see the decay accelerating even within the church. Saddens me because time is short. Excites me as well because...well...time is short. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 If the libs got punked there aren't too many people who see it that way. The libs will just pick the parts of his encyclical they like and ignore the parts they don't like. If you say it's wrong to kill black youth and 99% of the time it's other black youth doing it, all the media/left will repeat is that it's wrong to kill black youth, leaving it open to assume it's only white cops that kill black youth. You can't punk the left by saying what they want to hear and "trapping" them by adding something they will ignore anyway. I agree. The sad thing about the punking is that the only people who get it are not the ones who need to be reached. Libs will always amplify what they want to hear and disregard the meat of the subject. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigtwin 219 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not a Catholic, but from what I have read this pope has some strong socialist leanings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not a Catholic, but from what I have read this pope has some strong socialist leanings. +1 I found the rest of what he said quite alarming. Maybe we should call him the Popelitician. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 He is from Argentina, Argentina has a history of hating the USA . the vatican and argentina gave aid to the nazis during and after WWII with full knowledge of what they were doing Its no surprise he would come down on the communist side of things 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not a Catholic, but from what I have read this pope has some strong National Socialist leanings. Fixed it. ..being from Argentina...no wonder! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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