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Those look very nice, but they are way out of the pricerange of what I can do for him. Kinda also too nice to treat the way it will be used.

 

I am trying to scrape up the cash for the ILBE large ruck.

Those packs are built nice so they can withstand a beating. Trust me, they will take any and all abuse save for a raging inferno. You can find em used for 150-200 if youre patient.

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Yeah. I've been looking on ebay. I mixed up the friend's departure date so it's too late to get him one for this trip. That gives me time to bargain hunt. I have been seeing lots on ebay now that I know what to look for. It looks like complete packs can be $80-150. Also surplus kits with all the parts and some extras in the $130 range. It is tough to tell with some of the lots whether you are getting the frame or just all the cloth components and extras though. 

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He's very familiar with it. Lived over there for over a year at a stretch. Been there a few other times too. He's been mugged (and frightened the muggers off) a few times, had people and stuff including passports held hostage by 'secret' police, and all of that stuff. Usually it is a ploy to steal property or extort a bribe. Everything is kind of negotiable by acting as if you are more in charge. If you resist, it implies you might know someone higher up the food chain. It's a messed up place, maybe getting due for some changes.

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