james peek 14 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 i know i have gotten a real late start on this but want to pic up some spare parts for my 762 bolt. or just a complete bolt if possible. parts include : firing pin, firing pin "pin", extractor and spring and extractor pin. basically all bolt parts. if i was able to find a saiga bolt would i have to worry about head space. could i use other parts from other bolts and which ones would be interchangeable. thanks for any help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Go look at the vendor sites, many after market parts out there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I used to spend way to much time thinking and looking online about the same thing. Simple advice? Buy another unconverted x39. I know they're not as cheap as they have been but look around. When all is said and done you will have a complete set of "spare parts" that you can change into what you want on your own time and budget. Not the cheapest route but the most effective IMHO. Take it for what it's worth. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) AK-74 parts. The bolt parts from my 5.45, and 7.62 interchange, my 7.62 actually has a 74 firing pin in it right now, the original broke. Edited August 12, 2015 by JoeAK 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I used to spend way to much time thinking and looking online about the same thing. Simple advice? Buy another unconverted x39. I know they're not as cheap as they have been but look around. When all is said and done you will have a complete set of "spare parts" that you can change into what you want on your own time and budget. Not the cheapest route but the most effective IMHO. Take it for what it's worth. i would just save it for a later conversion. AK-74 parts. The bolt parts from my 5.45, and 7.62 interchange, my 7.62 actually has a 74 firing pin in it right now, the original broke. what country is your 74 parts from. i would assume Bulgarian parts should swap out with no problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeAK 337 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I think it was Bulgarian, I bought 2 or 3 at the time, so I would have backups in case it happens again. I've always heard that Bulgarian 74s are near exact (maybe exact) copies of the Russian 74s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 KVAR had complete saiga bolts a while back and still offer parts from time to time. I made a post here about a year ago the last time that they were available. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/94646-dont-forget-parts-complete-saiga-bolts-still-available-for-x39-545/ The sanctions make this much less likely these days, but they are also known for sitting on inventory and "finding it in the back" later, only to mark it up considerably. You would definitely need to check the headspace on a new bolt. You could luck out and have it fit without issue, or in a worst case scenario you would need a qualified builder to pull the barrel and set the headspace from scratch. Just because it closes, doesn't mean it's safe to fire, so if you do find another bolt, make sure you do it right because its not just the rifle, but potentially your safety on the line if you are not diligent about it. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 From what I have seen, odds are the bolt and trunnion go together in one big bang.. Which means a full rebuild or at least pressing out the barrel and head spacing. Just get a firing pin, extractor and the needed springs. Hammer spring is also a good one. Get a spare trigger set as well. I keep a few $3 Romanian semi sets around, I figure if I NEED a replacement and can't order one, odds are 922r is not on my mind. Bolts don't seem to be the failure point. Its the small parts or the springs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Bolts don't seem to be the failure point. Its the small parts or the springs. ...that is unless you bought one of the I.O. rifles with a cast bolt and carrier. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 If that is cast they are insane. But we are talking saiga rifles. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 If that is cast they are insane. But we are talking saiga rifles. I agree...I don't expect that our Russian bolts will break but that didn't stop me from picking up a spare when they were available. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 does any one know if polish bolt parts will work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 No, as you can see in the photo, AMK bolts have a thicker stem and will not fit into your carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james peek 14 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) No, as you can see in the photo, AMK bolts have a thicker stem and will not fit into your carrier. akmvssaigabolts.JPG i was wondering about the parts of the bolt. looking at the pic it looks like the extractors won't work either. Edited August 13, 2015 by jrp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) The bolt and trunnion are paired to within a very few thousands of an inch. I'd just look for a spare firing pin and avoid dry-firing it. You can let the hammer down easy, with the top cover off. These rifles have few parts that will fail. Edited August 15, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SGL 530 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I just saw that there's one for sale over the AKFiles forum for $155.00.I would definitely want to see photos before sending the funds, but hopefully this helps you out. http://www.akfiles.c...ad.php?t=231876 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) I used to spend way to much time thinking and looking online about the same thing. Simple advice? Buy another unconverted x39. I know they're not as cheap as they have been but look around. When all is said and done you will have a complete set of "spare parts" that you can change into what you want on your own time and budget. Not the cheapest route but the most effective IMHO. Take it for what it's worth. That's how I see it too. Instead of stocking a bunch of spare parts, stock a spare identical rifle. Of course once you have them, then you need another spare to cover the first two. Although if you stock different rifles, then you fix the problem of common mode failures. (ie. the same exact failure on every copy of that gun, for ex. several broken cast bolts) At least the backup rifles can be bargain finds from Gunbroker, pawn shop, etc. So the ultimate solution is to buy lots of guns. Edited September 1, 2015 by Spartacus 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) I just saw that there's one for sale over the AKFiles forum for $155.00. I would definitely want to see photos before sending the funds, but hopefully this helps you out. http://www.akfiles.c...ad.php?t=231876 I'm a member over there as well. I picked up 2 extra bolts, springs, and even another Arsenal 2-stage FCG for that price. One of the bolts even had a perfect headspace for my rifle. Edited September 1, 2015 by Lone Eagle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) I just saw that there's one for sale over the AKFiles forum for $155.00. I would definitely want to see photos before sending the funds, but hopefully this helps you out. http://www.akfiles.c...ad.php?t=231876 I'm a member over there as well. I picked up 2 extra bolts, springs, and even another Arsenal 2-stage FCG for that price. One of the bolts even had a perfect headspace for my rifle. (Love my Arsenal two-stage trigger.) Edited September 1, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Even if a bolt headspaces, still check the load share of the lugs with some bluing (a blue magic marker works). Full load on the weaker ejection port side can be TROUBLE! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 http://www.k-var.com/shop/Limited-Time-Offers-and-Sales Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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