ivanm27 0 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hi all, was just given a used Saiga 20 gauge as a gift and I'm basically trying to learn as much about it as I can. I've attached images. What I know- Saiga 20 Gauge 2001 9 3/4 inch barrel Laser attachment Flashlight Attachment I found some magazines for it on CSS. Looks like a drum mag will never happen I've read a lot in this forum that these guns seem to need modding to function reliably and I'm wondering if this gun has already been modded for reliability since it's from 01 or am I likely going to still have to spend some money to get it to work properly and if so what exactly must I do? I know I haven't shot it yet and probably won't for another week but any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Just found 13 round Mags. Anyone know if these are any good? http://www.mississippiautoarms.com/saiga-20-gauge-13-round-magazine-2-34-shells-p-1409.html?zenid=5daf4ebf962fedf7fbdd552c23d2e158 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Barrel length is measured internal to the barrel with a closed bolt. Should be around 20".It has been modified, but you need to check and see if it has the correct number of U.S. Made parts. The trigger, trigger guard, stock, gas puck, fore end are usual suspects for change out. Some are obviously changed already. Edited September 3, 2015 by Dad2142Dad 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 It might only have 2 or 3 parts since the FCG still appears to be in the "sporter" placement. might not be able to use Russian mags with it if you have any Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd check function as is first.. Looks like you have a 3" magazine installed. It will low feed 2 3/4" shells unless it has a wedge added to the follower. If you have the 2 3/4 inch mag (marked 20x70 if i recall) do your function testing with that mag. Your gun has a gas adjustment knob, make sure you use the correct setting. The 13 round clear poly magazines normally feed well. They are out of production as far as I know. There was a drum made for these in limited numbers. I make a 10 round steel mag for 2 3/4" http://stores.csspecs.com/saiga-20-gauge-10rd/ PS 922r only applies to the person assembling the gun from the collection of part. This person was given it like this, so 922r does not apply at present. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Sadly, if you closely read it, inserting a mag constitutes "assembly" within the meaning of 922®. It sucks, but that's how it is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Yerp, tis why I'm not even buying a 5+ mag until I've got my gas puck and possibly swapped out the hammer if i can do that without doing a full conversion so with an American mag its sitting at 9 non-US parts just in case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ivanm27 0 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Thanks for the info. I'll get back to you all once I finally test this baby out Hopefully it shoots fine if not guess we'll see what still needs to be swapped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Honda94clark 0 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 If you find where to buy a bigger mag. Please let me know. The ones you posted are sold out snd i havent been able to find any except for the metal ones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cav01c14 4 Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Nice score I bought mine the same way and then converted it. I did a lot to get it to run right and I never could make it 100%. That is until I decided to trim the extractor spring. You see I did everything to this gun. I use it for three gun so it was embarrassing to have it malfunction during a shoot. The main issue I had was it would not always eject a shell right away. Then the issue was when the action would close it wouldn't lock up resulting in the trigger being able to be pulled but the hammer not striking the firing pin. Once I swapped out that spring it closed like butter and I haven't had an issue since. First thing I did was convert it over. It still felt undergassed so I knocked the gas block off and drilled the holes bigger. Still wasn't right so I polished the bolt carrier Added CSS puck to help it cycle. Added the ak47 gas adjuster and got it close. It would eject the shell just not always lock back up. Drilled out the holes one size larger a 2nd time. Discouraged that it didn't work i was about to sell it. Then I trimmed half a coil off the extractor spring and BINGO everything worked. If I had to do it all over again I would have trimmed that spring 1st. It is a regular ak extractor spring so I would suggest you buy another one. Pretty simple to do take the bolt apart pop out the spring trim it and put it back together. I use the CSS metal 10 rd mags. Nice thing about them is that they count as 3US parts. They did need just a little filing to get them to fit 100% but they work great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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