thx1971 1 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I was wondering if this is a Leapers UTG MNT-HGSG12 knock off .Its for sale on Ebay with 71 sold but just wondering if anyone has one and what the quality is like I emailed the seller over 5 days ago and still no answer. Heres a pic of the one on Ebay it looks just like the UTG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Knock off? Yes Chinese instead of US made. Tried one? No Used Chaos instead 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 There are lots of threads about them. I'll try to give you a fair summary. There is a US made version and a chinese. Teh US is about $20 more. Most people who have them like them for a couple years then change out for something light and plastic. The cantilever is a crummy way to mount an optic, because it twangs like a diving board. One of the older 50%Tactical vids has decent slow mo of that by accident. Two videos later there is no UTG rail on there... The UTG rail clamps onto the gas tube and onto the barrel. Some people had issues with them working loose. Others found the pressure on the gas tube made a reliable gun unreliable. Most find they work and never think about it. The CSS rail is well made but kinda heavy. It is a little narrower than the Chaos, which I like, but there is a lot of metal not cut out of it. The Chaos rail is the lightest of the bunch with the highest build quality. I find it a very uncomfortable shape to hold without an AFG on it. With an AFG it is OK. If I wanted a quad, it would be a chaos. His prices are currently very low for what you are getting. IMO quad rails suck for the fingers. I actually like the tapco intrafuse forend. The real question is how much of the function of the gun do you want to give up for looks? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thx1971 1 Posted September 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 There are lots of threads about them. I'll try to give you a fair summary. There is a US made version and a chinese. Teh US is about $20 more. Most people who have them like them for a couple years then change out for something light and plastic. The cantilever is a crummy way to mount an optic, because it twangs like a diving board. One of the older 50%Tactical vids has decent slow mo of that by accident. Two videos later there is no UTG rail on there... The UTG rail clamps onto the gas tube and onto the barrel. Some people had issues with them working loose. Others found the pressure on the gas tube made a reliable gun unreliable. Most find they work and never think about it. The CSS rail is well made but kinda heavy. It is a little narrower than the Chaos, which I like, but there is a lot of metal not cut out of it. The Chaos rail is the lightest of the bunch with the highest build quality. I find it a very uncomfortable shape to hold without an AFG on it. With an AFG it is OK. If I wanted a quad, it would be a chaos. His prices are currently very low for what you are getting. IMO quad rails suck for the fingers. I actually like the tapco intrafuse forend. The real question is how much of the function of the gun do you want to give up for looks? Yeah kinda wanted it too be light and sturdy with some looks to it I dont want alot of weight on the S12. I wliked the idea of the Chaos full rail with HK sights but the whole weight issues comes into effect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 they have one with a more rigid cantilever, that can have the HK sights, http://www.chaosus.com/rails/item-saiga-12-extended-quad-rail.php It is probably still lighter than the UTG, but cameron can answer that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I just tossed two UTG take off rails (1 AK rail, and 1 Saiga 12 rail) into our aluminum recycling bin so that they can be made into something useful. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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