DLT 1,646 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Remington hp golden bullets out of my rifle easily punch right through a frying pan at 100 yards leaving behind a nice hole that looks like a .45 was there. It's a deadly round. Not my choice for self defense, but deadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sccritterkiller 473 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I have CC my PMR 30 many times never had to use it....why? It weighs approx 2.5 lbs fully loaded and holds 30 rounds...comfortable with short pants on...and it beats an ice pick and throwing rocks...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug Hartley 526 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 A 10 shot .22 revolver or auto might be the ticket for someone that is recoil sensitive. The revolver has the advantage of reliability and you don't have to police your brass. I'd rather have a .22 than a pointy stick (unless I wanted to be really quiet!) At the end of the world, a .22 and plenty of ammo will be worth its weight in gold. Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 While I don't usually really agree with the assertion that a revolver is more reliable with semi autos, in a rimfire, absolutely. Especially double action. There are lots of 11 and 12 shot revolvers that are easy to shoot and are small. They certainly aren't quiet though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Depends on if one sees a pressing need for head shots. Whatever else can be said for 22LR (good stuff not that cheap assed bucket of boolits) it is accurate even in a pistol. Leave yall to think over the head shot thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Usually just the sight of a gun is enough to scare the perp away, but if it's a tough guy who isn't scared then .22lr may suddenly seem a poor choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Usually just the sight of a gun is enough to scare the perp away, but if it's a tough guy who isn't scared then .22lr may suddenly seem a poor choice. If he's not scared of a 22 you should give him a reason to be... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've heard many times about .22s leaving really nasty wounds from medical folks, and whilst I admittedly often think of how nice it would be land a gut shot with goose pellets and leave the asshole shitting in a bag for the rest of his life or making him look like he had a nasty case of smallpox its probably better to just explode their heart and/or lungs and not worry about if adrenaline or drugs have currently made them immune to pain. Being as a forehead can deflect a .22 and cause it to give the person an under-the-scalp mohawk I wonder how well a .22 can go through bone if it say hits the sternum or a rib instead of passing between them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macbeau 902 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 In 1981, John Hinckley damn near killed Ronald Reagan, James Brady and Thomas Delahnty with a .22lr. It had no problem punching a hole and scrambling James Brady's thinking cap. Granted, no one died, but Hinckley really didn't know what he was doing, either. Reagan was actually hit by a ricochet that then entered through the ribs and into his left lung. Delahnty was wounded in the neck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 while not my 1st choice a 22 beats a ball bat in a gun fight, some of them are very small can be bought cheap and the ammo was cheap and easy to find for years. one of my buddies uses one of the little naa 22 revolvers as his carry gun because he can hide it so easy. my old 22 rifle covers some of my living out in the sticks needs but not usually the 1st thing I grab for stuff bigger than an armadillo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 In 1981, John Hinckley damn near killed Ronald Reagan, James Brady and Thomas Delahnty with a .22lr. It had no problem punching a hole and scrambling James Brady's thinking cap. Granted, no one died, but Hinckley really didn't know what he was doing, either. Reagan was actually hit by a ricochet that then entered through the ribs and into his left lung. Delahnty was wounded in the neck. Indeed, Massad uses .22s so they are good for busting heads at close range but they normally are using them in cloak and dagger situations. Like a tank your brain-case has thicker armor in the front so if you shot someone in the upper bar of the "Fatal T" the bullet can slide around under the skin. Sirhan Sirhan did a pretty good job with a .22 as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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