expeditionx 1 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 I called and asked whether they are still selling Saiga12s. Yes was a ladies responce. Are you aware of the short barrel issue? Yes I told her I was the guy the owner called a lier because I mentioned to him the short barrel issue a while back. She got him on the phone. The guy that in soo many words said I was lying to him about the Saiga12 barrel issue some time back did not apologize. Instead, he called me motherfucker, son of a bitch, and anti-gun basterd. I told him " I see how you act when someone was right and your wrong, your a sorry sack of shit trying to pass for a business man" . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epsylum 0 Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 So you are an "anti-gun bastard" because you like to adhere to gun laws and not be arrested? What an idiot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PvtPyle 0 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 You may want to pass that experience on to RAAC. They are always interested in who is repping their company and products, and how they are doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 (edited) You may want to pass that experience on to RAAC. They are always interested in who is repping their company and products, and how they are doing it. Thank you Pvt Pyle thats a good idea, As soon as I get a chance in the morning I will for sure. Edited February 16, 2006 by expeditionx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 arent some old stevens and old old 410 mossbergs equipped with external chokes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 0 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 i really don't see the big deal. who makes these laws and why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon73 0 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Thanks for the warning. I weigh the experiences of fellow shooters heavily when I choose what businesses to deal with. I'm sure many others do the same. Working in gun sales myself, I cannot imagine speaking to a customer that way, even though a few have more than deserved it. Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience. Falcon73 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 i really don't see the big deal. who makes these laws and why? Congress makes them and the big deal is jail time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tomovich 0 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 The guy that in soo many words said I was lying to him about the Saiga12 barrel issue some time back did not apologize. Instead, he called me motherfucker, son of a bitch, and anti-gun basterd.I told him " I see how you act when someone was right and your wrong, your a sorry sack of shit trying to pass for a business man" . Sounds like a smart, quality type businessman. Has he bothered to take a tape meausure to the shotguns to check them? I have no idea who this dealer is but I know he'll never receive a penny of mine............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zebra 0 Posted February 16, 2006 Report Share Posted February 16, 2006 Sounds like a smart, quality type businessman. Has he bothered to take a tape meausure to the shotguns to check them? I have no idea who this dealer is but I know he'll never receive a penny of mine............. his name is c.w. i've talked to him before. he's a little wacked out his mind. so his reaction doesn't suprise me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Sounds like a smart, quality type businessman. Has he bothered to take a tape meausure to the shotguns to check them? I have no idea who this dealer is but I know he'll never receive a penny of mine............. his name is c.w. i've talked to him before. he's a little wacked out his mind. so his reaction doesn't suprise me The way he first responded to the short barrel issue seemed like his meds were not enough to keep him from acting delusional. Between his voice and his speech pattern, he kind of reminds me of one of the people in the original movie "Texas Chainsaw Massacre". He could fit right in with the Sawyer family. Making chili out of captured victims. The guy is wacked. When he was cussing me out, he even weezed and gasped like Grandpa Sawyer in the movie. Im sure if anyone calls at this point and asks about whether his Saigas have short barrels he might just lose it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hk4me 0 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Another Linky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Another Linky Not the same guy. Theres another Gunsmoke near west palm beach, Fl I have seen the one in South florida. Different guy. May be family but its a different guy than the one near Tallahassee. Maybe its his son or something. Edited February 17, 2006 by expeditionx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 The guy in South Florida always has like 300 AR-15s stacked on his table. I can see why he used to be a name on AR-15.com. I did a google search and found the one in South florida http://www.gunsmokeenterprises.net/ Gunsmoke Enterprises, Inc. P.O. Box 2537 Okeechobee, FL 34972 the one I spoke to is Gunsmoke 18-B Mccallister Rd Crawfordville, FL 32327 850-926-5500 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kogashuko 17 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Maybe he has tourette's like This Guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Thats just wacked... that CANT be right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) Thats just wacked... that CANT be right... Call him and ask him if he has short barreled Saiga12s and youll know for sure. Its too bad I cant record it and set it up as a WAV file on this post so it could be heard. That would be funny. Edited February 17, 2006 by expeditionx Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Integratedj 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Maybe he has tourette's like This Guy. That was the most entertaining waste of time I have ever seen. That is some seriously screwed up shiz. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kogashuko 17 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Yeh, I thought it was really messed up when I first saw it but I would think about it everytime I cursed. Had a constitutional issues of homeland security class last night and the instructor was scheduled to be an hour late but most of us were at the room already to discuss the paper. I took the time to pull that up on the giant projector and play it. Everyone was cracking up. You should record the convo with this guy and post it on here. It would almost be worth buying the $10 micraphone to do it. Better yet, if you have a headset plug on one of your phones plug a stright cable to your mic input on your PC and talk on another phone in the house. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKMaster 0 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I called and asked whether they are still selling Saiga12s. Yes was a ladies responce.Are you aware of the short barrel issue? Yes I told her I was the guy the owner called a lier because I mentioned to him the short barrel issue a while back. She got him on the phone. The guy that in soo many words said I was lying to him about the Saiga12 barrel issue some time back did not apologize. Instead, he called me motherfucker, son of a bitch, and anti-gun basterd. I told him " I see how you act when someone was right and your wrong, your a sorry sack of shit trying to pass for a business man" . So if you vote , does that make you a commie bastard? What an Ahole. Thanks for the heads up so we know not to deal with them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Maybe he has tourette's like This Guy. ROTFLMFAO!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Finally got ahold of RAA about Gunsmoke. He called them and told them about someone calling him to bother him with the barrel issue. Debbie said he was told he cant treat customers that way if hes going to be a RAA rep. From the rest of the conversation, I gathered that she is going to call him up and tell him to apologize to me through a phone call. RAA is run by nice people. She even said , the Saiga returns are going to be paid for by RAA. That wouldnt have likely happened with many other companies. RAA is a good company. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
epsylum 0 Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Finally got ahold of RAA about Gunsmoke. He called them and told them about someone calling him to bother him with the barrel issue. Debbie said he was told he cant treat customers that way if hes going to be a RAA rep. From the rest of the conversation, I gathered that she is going to call him up and tell him to apologize to me through a phone call. RAA is run by nice people. She even said , the Saiga returns are going to be paid for by RAA. That wouldnt have likely happened with many other companies. RAA is a good company. Record THAT conversation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Finally got ahold of RAA about Gunsmoke. He called them and told them about someone calling him to bother him with the barrel issue. Debbie said he was told he cant treat customers that way if hes going to be a RAA rep. From the rest of the conversation, I gathered that she is going to call him up and tell him to apologize to me through a phone call. RAA is run by nice people. She even said , the Saiga returns are going to be paid for by RAA. That wouldnt have likely happened with many other companies. RAA is a good company. Record THAT conversation. How could you record a cell phone conversation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 depending upon what model of Cell phone you are using....Radio Shack can fix ya right up for less than $20....Some models like mine have that feature built in..even burn it directly to your pc.. .Also beware of any recorded conversation [Audio ] laws your jurisdiction may have... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted February 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 depending upon what model of Cell phone you are using....Radio Shack can fix ya right up for less than $20....Some models like mine have that feature built in..even burn it directly to your pc...Also beware of any recorded conversation [Audio ] laws your jurisdiction may have... I dont know the recording laws locally. Maybe if he does call and leaves a voicemail I could transfer that instead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StarLynx 0 Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Yup..Voicemails left in YOUR box are your property...do anything ya want with it..But I wouldn't expect him to say anything of any value if he knows you are recording it....Altho..he don't seem ta be the sharpest tool in the shed,anyways... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted February 25, 2006 Report Share Posted February 25, 2006 I sent Gunsmoke a letter last week. He returned my money order for over $500 in todays mail. Thank God I am out of this S-12 short barrel mess!!! Wolverine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
expeditionx 1 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I sent Gunsmoke a letter last week. He returned my money order for over $500 in todays mail. Thank God I am out of this S-12 short barrel mess!!! Wolverine Well now their a business member. Amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 I sent Gunsmoke a letter last week. He returned my money order for over $500 in todays mail. Thank God I am out of this S-12 short barrel mess!!! Wolverine Well now their a business member. Amazing. That dealer sounds like a real dumbass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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