XD45 7,124 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Star KIC 8462852 is a very hot topic these days, but it's hard to find real information about it. Overly simple summary: The stars light is being blocked by something too large to be a planet but which does not produce any light or heat of it's own. It's also not blocking a consistent amount of light indicating it may be more than one object. So far no theory can fully explain what we're seeing. Yes it's almost certainly a natural phenomenon that we just haven't seen before. But let's play what if. What if it's an artificial structure or structures like mega solar collectors (Dyson Swarm)? That would make the builders centuries more advanced than us at the least. Maybe millennia more advanced. So if we are looking at them, couldn't they be looking back at us? But given the 1480 light year distance, we are seeing them as they were 1480 years ago, and they are seeing us as we were 1480 years ago. So they are seeing the light that left our solar system in 535AD. If their telescopes are dramatically advanced from ours they might be able to see that there is a life bearing planet here but no signs of technology. The first radio waves from earth won't reach them for 1350 years (give or take). But even without signs of technology they may be interested in life as we are so their probe may already be on the way. Edited October 18, 2015 by Darth Saigus 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 so their probe may already be on the way. I hope it's not anal! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Time and enough stars. Interesting topic. Sometimes it is best to say we just do not know. There may be hundreds of intelligent aliens BILLIONS of years ahead of us ... or there may be none. They may have been watching and directing the human species for millions of years and we would have no way of knowing. Or ... we are quite alone in the Galaxy right now. Again, we just do not know. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk451 2,230 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Construction project? Thin slice of a Dyson sphere? I'm not too worried about it. Slight cause for concern is messages targeted towards 'close by' star systems: http://gizmodo.com/390304/earth-set-to-receive-alien-reply-invasion-in-2015 Invaders from Altair? Maybe. I don't think I'll lose much sleep over it. What gets me is this childish, naive idea some folks have that 'Any civilization technically advanced enough for interstellar travel must be equally advanced morally'. Really? I'd call it foolish to anthropomorphize the moral values of a culture that is almost certain to be more alien than most any hollywood depiction of 'Aliens'. But, maybe I'm wrong & they're exceedingly moral, within their own frame of reference. Where would we fit into that frame of reference? Where does a cow or chicken fit into yours? "Message came in from some "Earth" place from 'Humans'". "Really? Cool, more food that talks". Also, one possible answer to the 'Fermi Paradox' (extraterrestrial intelligence's, where is everybody?) Darwinism: Any highly advanced civilization may see any other civilization they notice as a potential threat & 'take steps'. "Check this out, Earth: Humans. Think they may pose a problem?" STOMP "Nope." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Was that Dyson or Tyson........? lol!!!! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 I just hacked the Hubble telescope feed. Here is the last picture that was downloaded before it went dark. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 How old was Natalie in that film? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk451 2,230 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Never really cared too much for Slim Whitman until I saw this flick. AACK. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 18, 2015 Report Share Posted October 18, 2015 Sorry guys...I HAD to! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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macbeau 902 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I hate probing.... Gawd! I hate probing! Edited October 19, 2015 by macbeau Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 They have always been here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sim_Player 1,939 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) I'd be pissed off, if that was my fruitful crop. I think we spend more time looking into space than we do trying to solve real problems on Earth. I believe in the God of Abraham, the Creator of the Universe. The Bible addresses who God is, his son, their relation to the Human Race and our history on Earth (beginning to end). It's a fantastic read (including fallen angels mating with humans, in Genesis). I suspect that our realty is a Matrix-like realty with angels and demons popping in and out of a multi-dimensional universe. I would encourage everyone to start their own search for truth. I don't believe it will include aliens. Edited October 19, 2015 by Sim_Player 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Thanks Reverend. No thread is complete without some preachin. But I must say the matrix religion connection is a new one. My "truth" is a bit more practical but don't trouble yourself about my soul. I take full responsibility and absolve you of any obligation to save me from the matrix demons. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Not worried about ET's, the universe is all made out of pretty much the same stuff, and distributed fairly evenly across the entire universe. There is NOTHING here worth the effort to come here to take! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 ET? The Extra Testicle? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 How old was Natalie in that film? Legal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Naw ... she was about 12. Yikes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Is that Cheech? That stuff was more fun when I was broke and I couldn't find it! We still cross paths. Edited October 20, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Put this one down to the same people who taught us about the 'canals' on Mars when we were in grade school. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Guess they had too much moonshine.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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