saltydecimator 482 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 In my mind that's either a very strong case of proof of the Almighty (absolute control over situation, kinda like how suicides fail, I mean come on, you don't have control over your own life?!) or they are just the shittiest guns on the planet?! I.e. Kinda like parts kits over here, they were cast off guns that really have no value? I mean AK's have the aura of never jamming, yet the idiot in Paris had jams, the idiot on train in Europe jammed, I think the CA people's stuff jammed too no? Long story long, I wanna hear your opinions on the sitch... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I mean AK's have the aura of never jamming..., I think the CA people's stuff jammed too no? No, they used AR's. <ducks> 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 VERDICT: ARs are garbage. SENTENCE: Trash can. Right next to the AKs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 From what I could tell from the Paris cafe the gun didn't jam, he ran dry. Many of those idiots don't know how to clear a stoppage, so they need to switch guns, or they are out of the fight. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigChongus 765 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 From what I could tell from the Paris cafe the gun didn't jam, he ran dry. Many of those idiots don't know how to clear a stoppage, so they need to switch guns, or they are out of the fight. IIRC, Phillips gave up on his AK during the North Hollywood shootout just due to a stovepipe and died shorty after transitioning to his handgun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 From what I could tell from the Paris cafe the gun didn't jam, he ran dry. Many of those idiots don't know how to clear a stoppage, so they need to switch guns, or they are out of the fight. I thought the very same thing. My wife is getting a brand new G43 for Christmas as her CCW, because I never want to see her running into a cafe cowering just waiting to be shot. If either of those women in the video were carrying, that POS would have been dead on the spot at the moment his weapon either jammed or ran dry. I wonder how many additional lives would have been saved if he was dropped at that moment. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) I agree with your original premies, God has a hand in our affairs, sometimes. Edited December 8, 2015 by Sim_Player 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackHeart762 288 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Its about time for some wrath BH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDeacon 168 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I can't remember who said it but the phrase "All skill is for naught when an Angel pisses in your flintlock" suits. Let's hear it for the Angels screwing up the enemy's efforts! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 One of the Paris bombers vests malfunctioned, blowing a hole in his side. Damage was minimal. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Extreme beleif in the dogma of hate does not bring with it the cool headed and logical solution to ANY problem. They most likely have poor weapons training at best! Weapons are merely secondary to their purposes, and as sutch only minimal training in their maintenance and use is expected of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Aren't most of the mass murderers liberal registered democrats? That would explain the weapons malfunctions, psych meds and crazy. They never had weapons training, hunting, target shooting and maintenance growing up. They all use new mall ninja gear issued to them by their handler that never gets proven. Tinfoil on! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Its about time for some wrath BH Sign up with your recruiter. I can't remember who said it but the phrase "All skill is for naught when an Angel pisses in your flintlock" suits. Let's hear it for the Angels screwing up the enemy's efforts! Prussian proverb. Pissed down your touch hole. That's a good one. Thanks for your service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackHeart762 288 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Extreme beleif in the dogma of hate does not bring with it the cool headed and logical solution to ANY problem. They most likely have poor weapons training at best! Weapons are merely secondary to their purposes, and as sutch only minimal training in their maintenance and use is expected of them. With all due respect. Underestimating an enemy is the best way to lose the fight. BH Edited December 8, 2015 by BlackHeart762 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Extreme beleif in the dogma of hate does not bring with it the cool headed and logical solution to ANY problem. They most likely have poor weapons training at best! Weapons are merely secondary to their purposes, and as sutch only minimal training in their maintenance and use is expected of them. With all due respect. Underestimating an enemy is the best way to lose the fight. BH Infinite wisdom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think the theater shooter had a shit quality drum that failed, if I remember correctly? Heaven help us if these killers ever get lucky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,930 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 Its about time for some wrath BH Sign up with your recruiter. Problem with that is, there is a very good chance that your recruiter's boss will send you to fight on the wrong side. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 The Paris and train jams don't surprise me if the guns were messed with. The AR's have a history of jamming, so no big deal. The fact that those idiots were unable to clear the jams quickly is a sign of inexperience with the platform or that specific particular firearm at that moment. Either way, sometimes things just break or God says "today is not your day". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 The Paris and train jams don't surprise me if the guns were messed with. The AR's have a history of jamming, so no big deal. The fact that those idiots were unable to clear the jams quickly is a sign of inexperience with the platform or that specific particular firearm at that moment. Either way, sometimes things just break or God says "today is not your day". If your AR jams, it's not the gun 98%+ of the time. I've shot 4-6K rounds per year for the past several years in competition, don't remember ever having a jam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 The Paris and train jams don't surprise me if the guns were messed with. The AR's have a history of jamming, so no big deal. The fact that those idiots were unable to clear the jams quickly is a sign of inexperience with the platform or that specific particular firearm at that moment. Either way, sometimes things just break or God says "today is not your day". If your AR jams, it's not the gun 98%+ of the time. I've shot 4-6K rounds per year for the past several years in competition, don't remember ever having a jam. That's right. Usually it's the mags, or a failure to maintain the firearm properly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 In CA they had Bushmasters. Anchorman said so.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think the theater shooter had a shit quality drum that failed, if I remember correctly? Heaven help us if these killers ever get lucky Believe it was a beta that couldn't run without a stovepipe. Damage was also from the shotgun but the media didn't want to stress that. Didn't fit the agenda. Joe Biden and all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yugopap4me 29 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I think the bigger "miracle" is that the most wanted man in Europe escaped a country that locked down it's borders, then he fled to a city in another country that also got locked down all while every security force probably on earth was chasing him. Then he vanishes into thin air. Mathematically I think that trumps a gun jamming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Extreme beleif in the dogma of hate does not bring with it the cool headed and logical solution to ANY problem. They most likely have poor weapons training at best! Weapons are merely secondary to their purposes, and as sutch only minimal training in their maintenance and use is expected of them. With all due respect. Underestimating an enemy is the best way to lose the fight. BH Know your enemy, so you know when and where to KILL him. Know his weaknesses, know his strengths. Hit him where he is weak. decieve him where he is strong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remek 771 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) I think the bigger "miracle" is that the most wanted man in Europe escaped a country that locked down it's borders, then he fled to a city in another country that also got locked down all while every security force probably on earth was chasing him. Then he vanishes into thin air. Mathematically I think that trumps a gun jamming Almost as if the governments were actually helping him out each step of the way.... Edited December 10, 2015 by Remek Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Share Posted December 11, 2015 " Never aquaint to malice, that wich can be explained by incompetence" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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