Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted December 26, 2015 Report Share Posted December 26, 2015 Some disquieting news... I decided to write back to Eotech to see what is happening -- an update. I replied to the original message I got that approved the refund and return... Here's what I got back: Automatic reply: Return Authorization Request: XXXXXXXXXXX Thank you for contacting Eotech, This is no longer an active email please respond to support.eotech@L-3COM.COM Hope I am not being paranoid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Our returned Eotecks went back via cheapo snail mail two days before Christmas. They probably will not receive them until shortly after the first of the year. Then the expected waiting begins. We will see. Will advise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forsaken352 235 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Sent mine via USPS with tracking. Arrived on the 24th. All is quiet so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 an update -- I sent an email to ask the status. I got this as a reply: "Thank you for contacting EOTech. We are working on refunds and will process them as soon as possible." ...well there's that... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I'm keeping mine for now. I have it mounted on a S-12, where a couple MOA POI shift is going to be lost in the ~100MOA spread of the shot pattern. The circle-dot reticle is nice for shotgun; dot for slugs, circle for buckshot. But I wouldn't put one on a rifle any more, unless it was conclusively proved by a 3rd party the issues had been fixed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted December 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 On the DCM M1 Carbine Forum it was brought to our/my attention that we might have some phony Chinese fake Eoteck scopes floating around the country. One of the Eotecks we returned came in a plain cardboard Eoteck marked box and NOT the usual black plastic interior padded container. It also had NO serial number on the scope. Now I wonder if it could be a FAKE? We will see. Day number 8 since return. Will advise. The Saga continues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Got my RA from Eotech, shipping my Xps3 to them Monday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) On the DCM M1 Carbine Forum it was brought to our/my attention that we might have some phony Chinese fake Eoteck scopes floating around the country. One of the Eotecks we returned came in a plain cardboard Eoteck marked box and NOT the usual black plastic interior padded container. It also had NO serial number on the scope. Now I wonder if it could be a FAKE? We will see. Day number 8 since return. Will advise. The Saga continues. If it said Eoteck, it's FAKE Edited January 2, 2016 by toothandnail 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmanual 44 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Those bastards! Thanks for the heads up! .... let us know what form refund comes in and response time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 Fake Eotechs are easy to spot. The reticle doesn't sparkle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I'm NOT sure what that means. Sparkle? As in humor or reality? I am not groking it. Yikes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 My buddy returned one and got his refund promptly I have six of them, but they are older and dont seem to exhibit any issues, so Im keeping them 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 (edited) The laser reticle has a distinct sparkly appearance like it's made of a thousand tiny dots, which I guess it is. It's pretty obvious. I found a picture (shamelessly stolen from the interwebs) that shows it. Edited January 3, 2016 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 My buddy returned one and got his refund promptly I have six of them, but they are older and dont seem to exhibit any issues, so Im keeping them "promptly" ??? days? Weeks? also do you know the amount he got? Inquiring minds want to know... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 I've read elsewhere, 2 weeks to get check. Guess I'll find out 2-3 weeks from now. Bad thing is that they are getting overwhelmed with returns. We shall see. this sucks because I really liked Eotech. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 My buddy returned one and got his refund promptly I have six of them, but they are older and dont seem to exhibit any issues, so Im keeping them "promptly" ??? days? Weeks? also do you know the amount he got? Inquiring minds want to know... Nobody has gotten a refund yet, that I know of . A few have claimed various types of refunds but NONE have produced any credible evidence showing said refund. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 He was refunded $400. he said it took a few weeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 3, 2016 Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 He was refunded $400. he said it took a few weeks I won't say he's fibbing, but I have been watching this on several forums, with guys who sent them in the first day it was made known. No one, on any of those forums, has received a refund. I returned 5, kept 2. Sent mine in around Dec 8-9, haven't heard anything. From several, who are closer to this than I am, said Eotech is saying 6-8 weeks before refunds start going out. So if by the end of Feb if refunds are still not arriving , then I'll wonder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2016 Ha ha ha! Hoist by my own Partard! I have no Eotecks left to check the sparkle with! Sent them all back. Yikes! We will see. Will advise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Remek 771 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 hmm, guess i have to look into it. might be good for an upgrade, but otherwise i like my refoex sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Ha ha ha! Hoist by my own Partard! I have no Eotecks left to check the sparkle with! Sent them all back. Yikes! We will see. Will advise. HB Just as a point of interest; what's with the "Eoteck"? Was it marked that way or are you just being a different homo sapien??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Give me a break. I am left handed. EOTECK vs. EoTeck vs. Eoteck vs. EOteck. etc. However good point. One of the scopes did come in a different plain blue colored cardboard box with internal box white styrofoam padding for the scope. That scope had no serial number on it. The other three Eotecks did come in a black poly plastic box with dark foam interior padding and did have serial numbers. Probably one of ours was a fake. We will see. Will advise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I think m going to hold off on sending my Eotech in because I have not heard of one (1) verified actual refund. If they file for bankruptcy before your refund you are SOL. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 If the sights shift up to 20-30 moa, well, I'd rather throw mine away than using it in a life and death situation and it failing to be accurate... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 EOTECK vs. EoTeck vs. Eoteck vs. EOteck. etc. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Day 15 since return. Nothing yet. Will advise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If the sights shift up to 20-30 moa, well, I'd rather throw mine away than using it in a life and death situation and it failing to be accurate... It's actually "up to" 1/10 that. Up to 4 MOA POI shift going from 73F to 120F or 32F, with up to 2MOA shift remaining after returning to 73F. It's a problem, but not as big as has been made out in some places online. On a sub-MOA rifle, a big deal. On a shotgun, you aren't going to notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 EOTECK vs. EoTeck vs. Eoteck vs. EOteck. etc. joker-not-sure-if-serious1.jpg I imagine those at Eotech are getting some comic relief at some of the knock off stuff coming in. Just a heads up. IF the name on your optic is spelled wrong . . . . . . . . . . it might be a fake ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 If the sights shift up to 20-30 moa, well, I'd rather throw mine away than using it in a life and death situation and it failing to be accurate... It's actually "up to" 1/10 that. Up to 4 MOA POI shift going from 73F to 120F or 32F, with up to 2MOA shift remaining after returning to 73F. It's a problem, but not as big as has been made out in some places online. On a sub-MOA rifle, a big deal. On a shotgun, you aren't going to notice. Mine was not on a shotty... Any shift is unacceptable to me -- defective is defective and when it effects something that you may have to rely on to defend your life with = totally fubar... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 All optics shift to some degree with temperature; it's an inescapable byproduct of thermal expansion and contraction, both of the materials in the optic and air itself. The question is whether the shift is statistically meaningful relative to the intrinsic accuracy of the gun it's mounted on.It's not that hard to see how much your optic is shifting if you have co-witnessed iron sights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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