ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) Along with the Obama administration prepping EOs to further clamp down on law abiding citizens in any way they think they can get away with, the Democrat congress critters are doing their part too. If it is semi-auto, has a detachable mag, has fixed a mag capable of 10+ rds, or has ANY of the evil military features, they want it banned. https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/house-dems-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-of-2015/ Joined by 123-co-sponsors in the House of Representatives, U.S. Congressman David N. Cicilline (D-RI) introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2015 to prohibit the sale, transfer, production and importation of many widely popular and commonly owned rifles, shotguns and handguns. Despite the fact that these weapons are rarely used in the commission of crimes, Cicilline, and his Democratic cohorts believe that the ban is a key component to reducing gun-related violence. “The sole purpose of these types of weapons is to kill as many people as quickly as possible,” said Cicilline in a press release. “It is unconscionable that we continue to allow military-style weapons to be bought and sold while mass shootings are growing more common,” he added. “This bill is an important first step that will restore some sanity to the way we treat guns in the United States.” The Assault Weapons Ban of 2015 will prohibit the sale, transfer, production, and importation of: Semi-automatic rifles and handguns with a military-style feature that can accept a detachable magazine; Semi-automatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds; Semi-automatic shotguns with a military-style feature; Any ammunition feeding device that can hold more than 10 rounds; And 157 specifically-named and listed firearms. The Assault Weapons Ban of 2015 will also attempt to close what gun-grabbers refer to as the “Charleston Loophole,” the existing law that allows a sale or transfer to proceed if a buyer’s background check is not completed within three days. According to the language of the bill, the background check period would be extended to 14 days. Additionally, if it is determined that a gun was sold to a prohibited individual, the FBI will notify federal, state, and local law enforcement so that the firearm can be confiscated and the buyer can be prosecuted for violating the law. “I would like to commend my friend, Congressman David Cicilline, for leading this effort and introducing this life-saving legislation,” said Congresswoman Janice Hahn. “The guns we are talking about today are not for hunting nor for target practice—they are weapons of war,” continued Hahn. “These assault weapons are designed to inflict the maximum amount of death and injury and have no place on our streets. Frankly, we should be ashamed that Congress allowed the original Assault Weapons Ban to expire in the first place.” https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269 H.R.4269 - To regulate assault weapons, to ensure that the right to keep and bear arms is not unlimited, and for other purposes. 123 cosponsors of the bill, no surprise, all Democrats https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/cosponsors And the 157 specifically-named and listed firearms. List of firearms prohibited by nameRifles: All AK types, including the following: AK, AK47, AK47S, AK—74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR—47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK—47, VEPR, WASR—10, and WUM, IZHMASH Saiga AK, MAADI AK47 and ARM, Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S, Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS; All AR types, including the following: AR—10, AR—15, Armalite M15 22LR Carbine, Armalite M15—T, Barrett REC7, Beretta AR—70, Bushmaster ACR, Bushmaster Carbon 15, Bushmaster MOE series, Bushmaster XM15, Colt Match Target Rifles, DoubleStar AR rifles, DPMS Tactical Rifles, Heckler & Koch MR556, Olympic Arms, Remington R—15 rifles, Rock River Arms LAR—15, Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles, Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles, Stag Arms AR rifles, Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 rifles; Barrett M107A1; Barrett M82A1; Beretta CX4 Storm; Calico Liberty Series; CETME Sporter; Daewoo K—1, K—2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000; Feather Industries AT—9; Galil Model AR and Model ARM; Hi-Point Carbine; HK—91, HK—93, HK—94, HK—PSG—1 and HK USC; Kel-Tec Sub—2000, SU—16, and RFB; SIG AMT, SIG PE—57, Sig Sauer SG 550, and Sig Sauer SG 551; Springfield Armory SAR—48; Steyr AUG; Sturm, Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rife M—14/20CF; All Thompson rifles, including the following: Thompson M1SB, Thompson T1100D, Thompson T150D, Thompson T1B, Thompson T1B100D, Thompson T1B50D, Thompson T1BSB, Thompson T1—C, Thompson T1D, Thompson T1SB, Thompson T5, Thompson T5100D, Thompson TM1, Thompson TM1C; UMAREX UZI Rifle; UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine; Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78; Vector Arms UZI Type; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.Pistols: All AK—47 types, including the following: Centurion 39 AK pistol, Draco AK—47 pistol, HCR AK—47 pistol, IO Inc. Hellpup AK—47 pistol, Krinkov pistol, Mini Draco AK—47 pistol, Yugo Krebs Krink pistol; All AR—15 types, including the following: American Spirit AR—15 pistol, Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol, DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol, DPMS AR—15 pistol, Olympic Arms AR—15 pistol, Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol; Calico Liberty pistols; DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol; Encom MP—9 and MP—45; Heckler & Koch model SP-89 pistol; Intratec AB—10, TEC—22 Scorpion, TEC—9, and TEC—DC9; Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol; The following MAC types: MAC—10, MAC—11; Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol; Military Armament Corp. Ingram M—11, Velocity Arms VMAC; Sig Sauer P556 pistol; Sites Spectre; All Thompson types, including the following: Thompson TA510D, Thompson TA5; All UZI types, including: Micro-UZI.Shotguns: Franchi LAW—12 and SPAS 12; All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: IZHMASH Saiga 12, IZHMASH Saiga 12S, IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP—01, IZHMASH Saiga 12K, IZHMASH Saiga 12K—030, IZHMASH Saiga 12K—040 Taktika; Streetsweeper; Striker 12. Edited December 19, 2015 by ChileRelleno 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Thanks for starting this thread. I would like to contribute this link and recommend everyone on this board to watch this video. http://constitution.com/all-federal-gun-laws-are-illegal-violate-u-s-constitution/ 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I put my money and my faith with the NRA... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) I put my money into expensive "doorstops". Don't open that door. Edited December 19, 2015 by Sim_Player 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 "Come and take it" 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwulf 179 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 If "they" say that we need to tone down rhetoric regarding muslims and jihadists (redundant I know) lest they get violent... Should we not be warning the dimocrats to tone down thier anti-constitution and anti-gun and anti-white guy rhetoric lest we be pushed into violence?!? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 lots of Calico guns still kicking around huh? not that this whole thing isn't DUMB, but they're wanting to ban those along with other guns that are not even manufactured anymore?!? (SPAS12) really...? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 They have been using the same list of firearms from the late 90s, and yes most of those are no longer manufactured. The best part about that list? Authors of the 94 AWB that spawned that list admitted that they put it together by looking through gun catalogs and simply picking whatever looked frightening. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Better trade in your Saiga 12's and Veper for an MKA 1919, I didn't see it on the list lots of Calico guns still kicking around huh? not that this whole thing isn't DUMB, but they're wanting to ban those along with other guns that are not even manufactured anymore?!? (SPAS12) really...? Still in business. http://calicolightweaponsystems.com/home/ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Another link: http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/16/support-for-an-assault-weapons-ban-hits-an-all-time-low/ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE NEW GUY 113 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 MOLON LABE ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 No chance it passes for now. As useless as the repubs are on most issues they have been holding firm on the 2nd. I give credit where credit is due. Unfortunately those who live in the occupied states can look forward to heavier chains and tighter collars. I'm waiting for one of the registration states to go full confiscation. I don't think the wait will be long. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 They wont quit till the rainbow colored Jack boot of liberalism crushes the life out of the last patriot. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CruisinTx2 49 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 A few of my thoughts on the second amendment our politicians need to push to insure we are allowed to retain the right to own any type of firearm we choose. Do the bleeding hearts liberal gun grabbing Democrats simply not get it? The right to bear arms is in the second amendment, not to give us unlimited choices of weapons to use for hunting, but for one very simple reason. It gives us the ability to defend our country against a tyrannical government and in the event of an invading army. The guys who wrote it knew the day might come when we need a deterrent greater than any other, so they made it so these United States would have the largest standing army in the world. With that, no other nation or group of nations or even our own government, would dare to invade us knowing that behind every door there may be armed citizens ready to fight with as much fierceness as a momma bear defending her cubs. If we let the attempt to restrict gun ownership to continue, there may come that time when the gun grabbing liberals are successful in taking away our weapons. Now some of them say we have no need for military style weapons with high capacity magazines for hunting. I totally agree with that; we don't need them for hunting. We DO need them if we are to send the message to potential invaders that we are as prepared for to wage war on our homeland against any army they can throw at us. We simply cannot allow them to even limit the types of weapons we now have legal rights to. Losing the right to have high capacity, rapid fire weapons and keep only low round count shotguns and breech loading rifles will greatly weaken us as a defending army of citizens. Think about it; weapons limited to 5 or 10 rounds are no match for those with 30-50 and 100 rounds when on the battlefield. That "battlefield" could become our backyards if we allow the liberals to limit or take away our weapons. RIGHT NOW is the time to start sending messages to the idiot liberals that they will be voted out if they continue with attempts to weaken the “largest standing army in the world” with more and more gun restrictions. Now, more than any other time in history, is the time to keep these thoughts in the minds of any potential invaders. "You cannot invade the mainland of the United States because there is a rifle behind every blade of grass." There is uncertainty as to who, where and when those words were uttered. What is certain though is that we maintain that deterrent in the minds of our potential enemies. Further gun restrictions will greatly weaken that concept and leave us vulnerable. I just put this up on Mac Thornberry's Facebook page. (If you agree, share this everywhere possible.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Liberals dont care They know with enough welfare voters and moron young people coupled with enough voter fraud, they wont lose many elections. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2014/07/02/weve-crossed-the-tipping-point-most-americans-now-receive-government-benefits/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 The left owns the minds of our children. 12 years of hard left indoctrination. Every young mind programmed to hate and fear. Hate America. Hate their parents. Hate white people. Fear guns. Fear gun owners. Fear climate change. Fear Christians. But don't hate or fear islamic terrorists. They are taught to hate and fear you and me but to "understand" or simply ignore islamic terror. They are taught that health care and smart phones and internet are "rights" but freedom from government tyranny is an extremist idea. It all sounds like the plot of a badly written movie. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CruisinTx2 49 Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 probably all valid points guys but rather than stating the obvious negatives about gun grabbing liberals here where 99.99% agree with you, why not share the importance of retaining second amendment rights in places where people need to be enlightened? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 probably all valid points guys but rather than stating the obvious negatives about gun grabbing liberals here where 99.99% agree with you, why not share the importance of retaining second amendment rights in places where people need to be enlightened? why would you think we dont do that as it is? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 They're not Democrats, they're actually Communists. They're not Republicans, they're actually Corporatists. The communist will never stop trying to take over America. One piece of the puzzle that they can't seem to find is disarmament. Without this crucial piece, it will never come together. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DLT 1,646 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I put my money and my faith with the NRA... Both my wife and I signed up for lifetime memberships this month. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CruisinTx2 49 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 probably all valid points guys but rather than stating the obvious negatives about gun grabbing liberals here where 99.99% agree with you, why not share the importance of retaining second amendment rights in places where people need to be enlightened? why would you think we dont do that as it is? I'm hoping you do, if so, post em up here to give others the chance to share your positive thoughts on guns and military style weapons nationwide. I firmly believe a movement called "a rifle behind every blade of grass" needs to become an Internet viral onslaught the likes of which has never been seen before. Write everyone we/you know with thoughts of making certain we retain quite possibly the greatest deterrent ever. If we, as staunch believers in the second amendment, work diligently enough we have a chance of insuring the rifle behind every blade of grass concept is known throughout the world. With that concept and not limiting those "rifles" to low round count shotguns and breech-loading bolt actions, these United States will never have to face an invading army. Also with that, the possibility of having 150 million military style rifles scattered all across our country, our military can more easily concentrate it's resources and defenses on things beyond the capabilities of the citizens. Things like air defenses, anti missile defenses, counter intelligence, etc. BTW; I posted the same message on Ted Cruz' Facebook page this morning and plan to add one or two politicians a week for as long as it takes. Pound the politicians with pro-gun support! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 They're not Democrats, they're actually Communists. They're not Republicans, they're actually Corporatists. The communist will never stop trying to take over America. One piece of the puzzle that they can't seem to find is disarmament. Without this crucial piece, it will never come together. Dems want to take away your 2nd Amendment, GOP is after your 4th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 Imagine for a moment that the intended goal is not to ban firearms, pretty clear that aint ever working now, but to sell firearms. Why question this? Because its there, low hanging fruit that no one seems to question. What reason could they have? No answer as Im not invited to the clubhouse meetings. Could be they just have nothing better but remember everyone in DC has stink on their hands on this matter even the NRA. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sobrenegade 795 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Imagine for a moment that the intended goal is not to ban firearms, pretty clear that aint ever working now, but to sell firearms. Why question this? Because its there, low hanging fruit that no one seems to question. What reason could they have? No answer as Im not invited to the clubhouse meetings. Could be they just have nothing better but remember everyone in DC has stink on their hands on this matter even the NRA. Rhodes, I think you may be onto solving the mystery of life. What two presidents have helped sell more firearms in the last 22 years? One clue, they're both Democraps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I never bought a firearm from a president. I did buy one from a former mayor once... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPlainsDrifter 466 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 I put my money and my faith with the NRA... Both my wife and I signed up for lifetime memberships this month. Good to hear, and I signed up for the five year membership. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 The concept of magazine capacity bans is so absurd because it's based on the logic that it would give victims more time to take down the gun man whole he's reloading. They acknowledge that fighting back is the only real option, but want to limit you to arms reach.....Im the name of safety The stupid it burns. I know that political motives aren't about public safety but that citizens are stupid enough to buy into it....I need another planet to move to 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Imagine for a moment that the intended goal is not to ban firearms, pretty clear that aint ever working now, but to sell firearms. Why question this? Because its there, low hanging fruit that no one seems to question. What reason could they have? No answer as Im not invited to the clubhouse meetings. Could be they just have nothing better but remember everyone in DC has stink on their hands on this matter even the NRA. Rhodes, I think you may be onto solving the mystery of life. What two presidents have helped sell more firearms in the last 22 years? One clue, they're both Democraps. Well lets apply this to another situation see what we can determine. When it was being thrown around that the US would not deport illegals but would build a (joke) wall to keep out illegals (love using that word) there was a sudden spike of illegals coming over the border. Everyone knew this and yet the same rhetoric continued to be spouted for about a year or more. Was the intent to discourage illegals or get a bunch more real quick? I think the latter. Why is of course open to debate but there can be no doubting the results and hence the intent. Sufficiently competent malice is indistinguishable from incompetence. SO what does a further polarization of the American electorate around the issue of firearms accomplish? One cannot assume mere incompetence. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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