XD45 7,124 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Seems Sootch is taking a lot of flack for his latest review of the Canik TP9SF. The self-proclaimed patriot police have their panties knotted about buying anything made in Turkey. Never a shortage of assholes who want to tell everybody else what to think. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Ah hell, I get the same thing from my FiL and a few other ol'school Vets about buying Russian/ComBloc weapons. I'm supporting the enemies of the US. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I dare you to buy something not made in a foreign country, getting harder and harder to buy an all US made product. So if I buy a Duluth trading t-shirt does that make me a Vietcong lover? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Unfortunately, if you follow the money it's mostly true. As much as I'd like to buy a Turkish HK clone, and as someone who bought a Canik in the not so distant past, Turkey is a large ISIS supporter. I wish that entire part of the world could somehow just fall into the sea. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Under the current circumstances I won't be buying another Turkish firearm. That's my choice. But here's something to think about. Given the actions of the current administration I could argue against buying American made firearms for the same reason. This country is a supporter of terrorism. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Does buying a Saiga or Vepr support communism? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwulf 179 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 There are probably tons of people that will hate us for picking up an Israel made Baby Eagle this weekend... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted January 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 If you read the comments under any Israeli firearm review you'll see the hatred of "the jew" is alive and well. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Well if TheYankeeMarshal is to be believed we're all guilty of helping Putin pillage Ukraine and whatnot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Says the fuckers who wear chink boots..... Does buying a Saiga or Vepr support communism? Not any more, buy up. Ah hell, I get the same thing from my FiL and a few other ol'school Vets about buying Russian/ComBloc weapons. I'm supporting the enemies of the US. Weird, my buddy is a Marine Vietnam vet and even at his age, he gets pumped up when he sees a nice AK. He shoots a mini30 but doesn't discriminate. He volunteered during the draft and has nothing but respect for his old enemy. That and he still wants to get some more. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Really it doesn't matter until it matters. This is just like "dknt buy Exxon gas on Tuesday and we'll show em we mean biz". It's a load of phooey. Not that many guns being sold are gonna make a shit. Joe fudd has no idea anyway. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) As long as I'm not buying from any obvious outright criminals, look I can only be so selective here. I still buy a ton of Russian ammo, even though I don't agree with everything Russia does. I'm sure are plenty of guys who would not touch Russian ammo for that reason. I have thought about purchasing one of the Turkish pistols, but there are still a lot of good deals on used pistols out there. I get no say in the matter as far as the most egregious monetary support to criminals go. Edited January 18, 2016 by mancat 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Does buying a Saiga or Vepr support communism? The way I see it, I bought my Saiga from Classic Arms, an entirely USA business. They got the firearm from RRA, an importer that paid a Russian exporter for the gun and a heavy tariff to the USA government for the business of importing.... and so on, and so on, and so on. I could have gotten the gun a lot less cheaper if everyone else didn't need their cut, but a trip to Russia to pick it up would have been far more expensive, and then some asshole wouldn't have let me bring it on the plane to bring it home. Screw it. I wanted it for me. It was about me. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 BOYCOTT AIR!! Some ________ somewhere has breathed THAT air before, and if you take your next breath, then YOU are supporting_______!!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I have a turk shotgun and a turk 9mm pistol. Both of which I really like a lot. and if I had the money I would most certainly by one of these bad ass Zenith's. and never feel like I am supporting anything but my own gun hobby. Edited January 18, 2016 by SHOTGUN MESSIAH 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 Chink ? You cannot say that word. When I used it here they told me it was a no no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Ask them why they support ISIS by driving their car ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 We all support the biggest terrorist in the world with our tax dollar every day. Thanks Obama! If you buy any firearm from any country near or around the middle east it is likely a terrorist gets his wings. Anymore there is no real distinction between our feerless leader and hadji akbar over seas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Does buying a Saiga or Vepr support communism? At least for a while it supported capitalism displacing communism. Now? I dunno. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Now it supports Fascism displacing Communism [and displacing other countries' borders]. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I would say no. But voting democrat is! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 As for Russia, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" seems to apply where ISIS is concerned. (But given the right timing I don't think Putin would mind giving us a kick in the nuts). 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Putin would slash his mother's throat if it got him one more day in power! I look forward to his assassination so we can get back to 'glasnost' and cool Saiga guns! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Putin would slash his mother's throat if it got him one more day in power! I look forward to his assassination so we can get back to 'glasnost' and cool Saiga guns! I wouldn't hold my breath honestly. Even if the US killed Putin directly via some CIA op you have to remember that 1. the government has managed to ban one of the major sources of "evil assault weapons" 2. the government successfully managed to ban the important of a major competitor to US made products [imagine how excited they'd be if they could ban all Japanese cars from being imported. Do you think they'd ever let that lapse?] and 3. the government never gives up power unless its ripped away from them. Basically unless the congress or supreme court is pushed kicking and screaming into overturning the executive order it will stand forever. The left will be happy to get rid of "assault weapons" and the right will be glad we banned unamerican commie guns that take jobs away from hardworking American gun-makers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 ^^ exactly. Bush II didn't exactly restore imports of chinese guns and ammo. In theory those are supposedly about punishing bad national behavior with economics, which is why we didn't even remove most favored nation trade status on the country we were supposedly punishing. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Barry O has more call to worry about the USA assassinating him than Vlad does! When and if Vlad gets his it will be by Muslim extremists, or a political rival. OR- one of his macho video's will go terribly wrong! Barry's EO's will be GONE next year unless we blow the election!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Putin would slash his mother's throat if it got him one more day in power! I look forward to his assassination so we can get back to 'glasnost' and cool Saiga guns! I wouldn't hold my breath honestly. Even if the US killed Putin directly via some CIA op you have to remember that 1. the government has managed to ban one of the major sources of "evil assault weapons" 2. the government successfully managed to ban the important of a major competitor to US made products [imagine how excited they'd be if they could ban all Japanese cars from being imported. Do you think they'd ever let that lapse?] and 3. the government never gives up power unless its ripped away from them. Basically unless the congress or supreme court is pushed kicking and screaming into overturning the executive order it will stand forever. The left will be happy to get rid of "assault weapons" and the right will be glad we banned unamerican commie guns that take jobs away from hardworking American gun-makers. Wrong about the( right) we believe in free markets and right leaning gun people enjoy a vast diversity in firearms. Unions and leftists both in private business and government want protectionism for their own benefit, at the cost of the citizenry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 ^^ agreed, but elected republicans are not necessarily conservative in practice. They tend to conform more to what JDeko said, rather than what their electorate would prefer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 ^^ agreed, but elected republicans are not necessarily conservative in practice. They tend to conform more to what JDeko said, rather than what their electorate would prefer. Ya think?? The republican (establishment) is NOT the right quite a few ELECTED republicans are fighting against the establishment on a daily basis. You have to make those distinctions to make a factual comment Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 To me "the right" means "elected republican politicians" none of whom, especially ones currently trying to become president, say anything about repealing the Russian import ban. If they don't care enough about it to even potentially lie just to sound good do you think they'll care enough to overturn it when elected? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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