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#61 MR_22

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 06:02 PM

well that settles that choice for me


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#62 ShadyVepr

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 06:29 AM

Centerfire just charged my CC so I assume one may actually magically appear at more door soon.



#63 MR_22

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 10:50 AM

Centerfire just charged my CC so I assume one may actually magically appear at more door soon.

Excellent! Welcome to the club. I got a tracking number before I saw a credit-card charge. :) Mine should arrive by July 28. I'm thinking maybe I'll have my video review posted on YouTube by July 29, LOL. :)

EDIT: Oops, delivery date bumped to July 29. Well that's OK, July 30 is Saturday, so that will make a better day to create a review video anyway.

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#64 ShadyVepr

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Posted 21 July 2016 - 12:56 PM

well maybe they just charged me for one :) I never got any kind of tracking info.



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 03:07 PM

Well the drum hit my door late friday night and I did not find it till the morning.

 

 First impression its not as big as I thought don't take it the wrong way its BIG :)

 

LRBHO does not function on my gun I emailed customer support and am awaiting a response auto mail said they were gone till the 1st but would try and answer in the evenings

 

If you have one of the original side folding stocks at least on my gun you cant put the drum in the mag well with the stock folded to the side it holds it out at least 1/2"



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Posted 23 July 2016 - 07:21 PM

 

 

LRBHO does not function on my gun I emailed customer support and am awaiting a response auto mail said they were gone till the 1st but would try and answer in the evenings

 

They said long ago that LRBHO would not work with these, unless something changed that I hadn't heard about



#67 ShadyVepr

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Posted 23 July 2016 - 09:41 PM

the instructions clearly say if the LRBHO does not work to email them and they will send you pics of what to file.



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Posted 24 July 2016 - 12:00 PM

My understanding is they are referring to the drum holding the lrbho in the activated position regards of being loaded or unloaded.. you would merely be giving the lrbho clearance to deactivate allowing the bolt to close

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 12:21 PM

So, in addition to my Centerfire order, I decided to get one from Classic Firearms, too, because I wanted to make complete sure I got one from the first batch going out. Well, both the one from Centerfire and Classic are scheduled to be delivered today. Whoa, can it really be so???

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Posted 27 July 2016 - 07:49 PM

It has been a while since I was on here but when i heard these mags are finally real and available I ordered 2. They are supposed to be here tomorrow according to the tracking.  They are coming from gun mag warehouse.  I have never ordered from them before so i am wondering how it will work out.


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Posted 27 July 2016 - 10:10 PM

Well, good luck rogers! Mine arrived today. Two of them. One ordered 2-1/2 years ago and one last week. And they come the same day. LOL.

 

I'm extremely happy. OK, first let me admit that I don't own a VEPR. I bought the drums for my Legion-converted Saiga-12 with magwell. VEPR mags aren't quite compatible, but almost. You have to remove a little bit of the latch tab, but it works great. I've converted a few 5-round original Molot magazines for my Saiga-12 and they been great.

 

So, I got one of my VEPR drums converted for my Saiga-12 and works great--at least it loads when hand cycling. It took a little longer than I thought, but it locks in tight. I went slowly to remove only as much material as I had to so it would work. I hand-cycled 15 rounds and it worked great with no misfeeds. Sometimes the bolt-hold-open feature works and sometimes not. I'll see if I can fine-tune that, but honestly, I'm not worried about that, since it wasn't designed for my Saiga.

But anyway, I'm very happy with my VEPR drums for my Saiga-12!

 

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Posted 28 July 2016 - 12:12 AM

Anyone get their drum to work with their flared competition magwell? I tried mine last night and it didn't lock in. I may revert mine back to factory to make sure it's just the magwell that's not letting the drum seat completely.


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Posted 28 July 2016 - 07:49 AM

i dont have a flaired magwell

 

 Just in case you did not know the bolt has to be back to load the mag.



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Posted 28 July 2016 - 04:36 PM

Anyone get their drum to work with their flared competition magwell? I tried mine last night and it didn't lock in. I may revert mine back to factory to make sure it's just the magwell that's not letting the drum seat completely.

I just put a competition magwell on my saiga 12 and figured that it was to long to accept the new drums. I  think you just confirmed my suspicion. It is about 2 times the length of the poly magwell on my vepr. I am seriously considering cutting it down and removing the flared section so that it will take these drums. My drum wont be here till tomorrow though so i cant confirm the problem till then. 


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Posted 29 July 2016 - 01:43 PM

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Posted 26 May 2017 - 07:57 PM

Centerfire has the VEPR-12 SGM drum on sale for the Memorial Day weekend for $80:

 

https://www.centerfi...d-12-gauge.aspx


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Posted 26 May 2017 - 10:42 PM

Well, looks like I'll finally get one for testing.


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Posted 27 May 2017 - 09:45 AM

I think you'll like it

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Posted 28 May 2017 - 12:04 AM

I'm sure. As odd as it may sound, I forgot they were finally here for a while, lol.


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Posted 04 June 2017 - 05:47 PM

Anyone get their drum to work with their flared competition magwell? I tried mine last night and it didn't lock in. I may revert mine back to factory to make sure it's just the magwell that's not letting the drum seat completely.

 

Those were a plastic clone of the original JTE V3 magwell for the saiga 12 modified mags. They don't have the same internal geometry as a vepr magwell.



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Posted 08 June 2017 - 11:08 PM

i did the same ( forgot about a product that i was interested in ) with the lil beltfed  22lr 1919 uppers.... then they got discontinued... lucky for me i just traded into one a few months ago...


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Posted 29 May 2018 - 05:08 PM

Well because of all of the anti gun hysteria I bit the bullet and got a drum for the vepr...   I wish it weren't so damn big.  

 

I had emailed them before the Vepr ban and they said they were working on a smaller drum with a smaller capacity... I personally see this as a range toy but not really practical.  Its awkward for me to hold and shoot the shotgun with it in place and that's with a vertical foregrip.

 

A 15 rd drum would be really sweet, but I doubt if we will ever see it now.



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Posted 30 May 2018 - 02:15 PM

Idk, theres more S-12 mag compatible guns out then ever before. When alot of these mags/drums were developed S-12/V-12 were the only games in town. Now theres so many Kalashnikov based shotguns out and for sale its hard to keep track of all of them! There is already a turkish and chinese clone of the V-12 being produced and sold (not yet in U.S. to my knowledge) its only a matter of time till we see them here. No other platform offers everything that the Kalashnikov based shotguns offer.

DURABILITY

-traditional semi auto gas system designs (mka 1919, sko, 1100, 930 etc.) use fragile rubber o-rings and wear parts that are sure to crap out at the worst time.

COMPACTNESS

-traditional semi auto's (1100, 930 etc.) have recoil systems that extend into the stock, so no folders. This is the reason why you will most likely never see a "shockwave" version of the 930 or 1100.

-Ar based systems use a buffer and tube, no folder or at least no firing more than one shot while folded.

-Pump designs can only be shortned so far due to the amount of travel needed in the action bars to cycle.

CAPACITY

-traditional tube fed semi auto designs (1100,930 etc.) have obvious capacity limitations.

-Non S-12/V-12 based semi auto mag fed designs (mka1919, sko, ar based etc.) use non standardized mags with less capacity options and no drums availible.

-Yes mossberg now has 590 double stack SMH! But its not a semi (and a abomination).

COMPACTNESS WHILE RETAINING CAPACITY

-traditional tube fed semi (1100, 930 etc.) when you shorten the gun, you lower capacity + no folder due to recoil system design.

-non S-12/V-12 based semi auto mag fed designs (mka1919, sko etc.). could be potentially be shortend but do not offer the capacity options/drums and truly are the minority in popularity compared to S-12/V-12 based designs. A true limited market since there is no standardization in the mag design.

-magfed pump shotgun (870 dm, 590m). Limited on compactness due to the action bar legnth necessary for function. And at the end of the day..its not semi!

The S-12/V-12/clone market is stronger than it ever has been. All of the S-12/V-12 clones released and planned for release (S-12/V-12/KS-12/Cheetah/Lynx/ddi-12/trench-12/tri-star bull pup/RS1-S1/Ranger Tac-12 etc etc.) is evidence of that. Just like manufacturers are stepping in to fill the S-12/V-12 void left by the sanctions, manufacturers will step in to profit from the sale of mags, parts and accessories for these firearms. The only question is..who wants to make money? "The S-12/V-12 market is dead" is a damn myth and I just proved why.
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