XD45 7,124 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Wow. Wondering first off if it will function with a good can. It will need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Can I put wood furniture on it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 All these prototypes make me hate Shot Show. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joelrod47 373 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Couldn't afford to shoot it if I had it............ However, my Tromix .458 Socom in AK will do just fine..... 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 REDONKULOUS ! Like to see slo mo barrel whip on that Behemoth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 The guy obviously doesn't know much about 50's if he thinks that break is too big. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) Reinventing the wheel? Could you make a single shot .50 for >$100 dollars? I'll bet you could. Then you have to worry about ammo. Edited January 20, 2016 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I've been conversing with the creator of this beast. lol Wow. Wondering first off if it will function with a good can. It will need it. It will have the standard .50 BMG thread pattern is what I've been told. He told me Barrett has their own thread pattern (bastards....). So your can will need those threads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) At the very minimum, it needs to do one of two things to succeed.... .... perform better than a Barret .... cost far less than a Barret ETA: Unless I am mistaken, it looks like it is going to be priced around $7k. I'm not sure anyone who has that much money to spend on a rifle would pick this over successful combat tested design like the Barret offerings. It needs to cost no more than 50% of what a comparable Barret would be, IMO. Edited January 21, 2016 by evlblkwpnz 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Whenever I see this thing I just hear "KILL... ME..." in my head in a pained, gurgling voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 At the very minimum, it needs to do one of two things to succeed.... .... perform better than a Barret .... cost far less than a Barret Those were my exact thoughts. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 If you want to get serious about shooting a 50 BMG, you buy a single shot bolt action. These mag fed 50's are for showing off at the range. This one especially, if it will even ever work. The serious long range match ammo will only fire out of a single shot and not fit in any mag as it is longer than standard ball ammo. I love my .50 and I love my AK's, but this thing is a joke. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 ~$2.50 a shot with ball ammo right now. JDeko: If you want a REAL noisemaker, get an 18" barrelled 50BMG with a shark brake. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Whenever I see this thing I just hear "KILL... ME..." in my head in a pained, gurgling voice. You are aiming at the wrong spot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Whenever I see this thing I just hear "KILL... ME..." in my head in a pained, gurgling voice. You are aiming at the wrong spot Touche. I meant more that it reminds me of some sort of miserable Frankenstein's Monster that should not be and thus is in constant pain. I think the exact voice I hear saying it in my head is from a tv series where an Alchemist makes "chimera that can talk" however all this chimera will say is "kill me". [turns out it was made by combining his wife with the family dog, and when he's hard up for cash he does it again with a new pet dog and his daughter.] 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Meh, I stopped at " this is a non firing....." because I knew there would be no shooting. Then it may as well be an shoulder mounted 155mm. Show something that shoots until then, I give zero you know whats. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) I know a guy who's making a 20MM Vulcan single shot rifle. I'm not sure what it's going to look like, but here's one Mark Serbu is making: https://youtu.be/y2nWO4P5vEY Here's one from Anzio next to a 50 BMG: ...and here's the REAL big boy: A 20MM rifle makes a 50BMG look like a .22LR https://youtu.be/gPhSxDwhTIA Edited January 22, 2016 by patriot 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Would a 20mm be an NFA item? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Yes. It's a Destructive Device. The 20MM cartridges mentioned above generate ~ 38,000 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. 50BMG is only 14,000 ft/lbs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Bigger yet... Wildcat: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/06/27/14-9mm-sop-rifle-cartridge/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Whenever I see this thing I just hear "KILL... ME..." in my head in a pained, gurgling voice. You are aiming at the wrong spot Touche. I meant more that it reminds me of some sort of miserable Frankenstein's Monster that should not be and thus is in constant pain. I think the exact voice I hear saying it in my head is from a tv series where an Alchemist makes "chimera that can talk" however all this chimera will say is "kill me". [turns out it was made by combining his wife with the family dog, and when he's hard up for cash he does it again with a new pet dog and his daughter.] I agree, it is visually painful. However, I'm not sure how else an AK in that caliber could look. Part of me wants to see it succeed and the other part of me hopes to never see one in person. It needs a head shot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vance665 225 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 At the very minimum, it needs to do one of two things to succeed.... .... perform better than a Barret .... cost far less than a Barret ETA: Unless I am mistaken, it looks like it is going to be priced around $7k. I'm not sure anyone who has that much money to spend on a rifle would pick this over successful combat tested design like the Barret offerings. It needs to cost no more than 50% of what a comparable Barret would be, IMO. Exactly what I was thinking except for one thing. The Barret is proven in combat, like you said it's been tested. This AK50 would need some kind of impressive record before it could be perceived as better, no matter how good (or bad) the design actually is. 50BMG is only 14,000 ft/lbs Oh, is that all? LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 At the very minimum, it needs to do one of two things to succeed.... .... perform better than a Barret .... cost far less than a Barret ETA: Unless I am mistaken, it looks like it is going to be priced around $7k. I'm not sure anyone who has that much money to spend on a rifle would pick this over successful combat tested design like the Barret offerings. It needs to cost no more than 50% of what a comparable Barret would be, IMO. Exactly what I was thinking except for one thing. The Barret is proven in combat, like you said it's been tested. This AK50 would need some kind of impressive record before it could be perceived as better, no matter how good (or bad) the design actually is. 50BMG is only 14,000 ft/lbs Oh, is that all? LOL Proper trials and testing would be assumed for the "better" status. I highly doubt it could ever even come close to matching the Barret offerings, much less best them. I was just trying to be nice and give it a chance to be whatever it may in the minds of others 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Shooting a .50 bmg is roughly equivalent to burning 4500 calories. It's the ultimate exercise plan! The AK look does nothing for this gun, and I'm very wary of the dust cover rail. Will it hold up to large optics and strong recoil? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 That thing is uglier than a hickey on a hemorrhoid If or when I could afford a semi auto 50 cal, I would get the Barrett not some johnny come lately ( insert appropriate expletive here) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not a serbu? I have heard nothing but positive comparisons between his and the barretts. Looks to be a lot of gun for the money, but not cutting any corners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 At the very minimum, it needs to do one of two things to succeed.... .... perform better than a Barret .... cost far less than a Barret ETA: Unless I am mistaken, it looks like it is going to be priced around $7k. I'm not sure anyone who has that much money to spend on a rifle would pick this over successful combat tested design like the Barret offerings. It needs to cost no more than 50% of what a comparable Barret would be, IMO. Speaking of Serbu, he has a semi-auto .50 in the works. I believe retail is going to be around $7-8k as well. Another promo picture I seen from him shows he's offering a $900 .50 single shot. The big drawback: screw breech. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 Not a serbu? I have heard nothing but positive comparisons between his and the barretts. Looks to be a lot of gun for the money, but not cutting any corners. We had a (stage gun) at a rocky Mountain nationals...it was a serbu and it started slam firing when loading They were not able to fix it, and that part of the match had to be thrown out. At the time several people familiar with the gun did not have anything good to say about it. I have no idea about reviews people have written about it I only know how Barretts belonging to friends have performed, and what I learned from handling the serbu and its untimely failure during a match . It could have been one in a million failure, who knows. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 That's why I asked. I figured you would have experience with both. I haven't been reading comparative reviews, etc. since I am not in the market for a 50 BMG anything. I just remember what folks who have tried both say. I recall Tony Rumore particularly as a fan of the serbu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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